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Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by endorphone »

obituary_latte wrote: post #128
endorphone wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As mentioned by others, surgical masks don't filter, but N95 masks absolutely do and are what health care workers are being equipped with. N95 masks just look like cheap little paper things that you stick on your face.

No they don’t. N95 are solid looking and sometimes have a plastic square housing on the front [0] and surgical masks are paper and pleated [1] [0] https://images.app.goo.gl/RZAgMSssThGJQrnf6 [1] https://images.app.goo.gl/fRW2dmSxUo1Lm1Dh8

Yes, yes they do. I can find a million pictures of N95 masks that look just like a cheap little paper mask (not like surgical masks -- not rectangular. Just cheap and like it's made of paper similar to a paper filter).

https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-rxcy1k/products/11668/images...

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by tim333 »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #95
voidmain wrote: post #77

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The guidelines for testing were so absurdly stringent because there was almost no testing capacity in the US, despite their being hundreds of labs with RTPCR equipment, because the CDC screwed up their test kits and the FDA used emergency powers to prohibit labs from developing their own tests, and forbids the creation of commercial test kits and the importation of foreign ones. Three weeks after CDC (after an alread…

>> forbids the creation of commercial test kits and the importation of foreign ones I was wondering about this... Very hard to justify that in my opinion.

Seems pretty mucked up.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by [deleted] »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #95
voidmain wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guidelines for testing were so absurdly stringent because there was almost no testing capacity in the US, despite their being hundreds of labs with RTPCR equipment, because the CDC screwed up their test kits and the FDA used emergency powers to prohibit labs from developing their own tests, and forbids the creation of commercial test kits and the importation of foreign ones. Three weeks after CDC (after an alread…

>> forbids the creation of commercial test kits and the importation of foreign ones I was wondering about this... Very hard to justify that in my opinion.

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Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by takeda »

76543210 wrote: post #15

So is there a way to prepare our bodies for getting sick? Me and my wife and our 8 month old live 40 hours a week in public, so it's going to happen. We already eat healthy, me and the wife workout. But the kid? Not sure how to prepare him.

Based on the statistics so far the most vulnerable people are the elderly, the lower the age the easier the recovery seems. Many people had mild symptoms and you might even think you just had regular flu, unless you are one of the unlucky ones.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by obituary_latte »

endorphone wrote: post #105
aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #91

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Frankly it's your tone that sucks. People initially thought you were referring to the generic medical masks, which are useless unless you're already sick. Being clear in your initial comment would have helped with the confusion.

My first comment specifically indicated N95 masks. Remarkably two people have criticized me for not being specific when replying to a blanket (and incorrect) post, when I was actually specific. Amazing. Then again, the one guy claims that health-care workers only wear masks to protect patients, which is just cartoonishly incorrect (beyond in the abstract "protect patients by the healthcare workers not getting infecte…

It’s not cartoonishly incorrect, in fact it’s mostly correct. Healthcare workers wear masks mostly to protect their patients. They themselves may get some protection from splashing/spurting bodily or other fluids, but not from any airborne contaminants or infections.

> A. Masks were introduced into clinical practice at the beginning of the 20th century to protect patients from microorganisms being expelled from healthcare workers’ respiratory tracts during clinical procedures (Wilson, 2006).

https://www.nursingtimes.net/archive/when-should-staff-wear-...

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by prostheticvamp »

empath75 wrote: post #96
prostheticvamp wrote: post #89

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During flu season. That line is always left out of this: the CDC doesn’t want to test just anyone with cold and flu symptoms ... during flu season. The false positives are basically guaranteed to absolutely swamp the true positives at this time, and demolish any attempt to target the sick.

They are supposed to only test people with flu like symptoms that test negative for flu. Which this person did.

Shit-tons of people with the flu test negative for flu. It’s not a very sensitive test.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by godelski »

soared wrote: post #36

> This is a tough one. I'm an attending physician. > Guidelines are there for a reason. As much as I despise our Commander in Chief, I don't think the CDC is compromised. Fear doesn't rank over guidelines, but I understand the situation. No one wants to be the doctor that discharges patient zero. > Personally, I'd admit you for fever of unknown origin for the time being and monitor you for any signs of sepsis. If eve…

With these kinds of things it's always better to error in the direction of caution. Controlling which way you fail is extremely important. You have to know your modes of failure

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by bootlooped »

prostheticvamp wrote: post #92
vanusa wrote: post #24

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Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. That's not what the guidelines said. They guidelines were referring only to "hygienic masks" a.k.a. generic surgical masks: The Federal Office of Public Health (FOPH) does not recommend that people who are well wear hygienic masks (surgical masks). If you are in good health, they do not protect you effectively against an infection with respiratory viruses (i.e. se…

They provide no /self/ protection. As I have said in multiple threads on this topic: we wear astm3 masks to protect /patients/ from /us/. A lot of hospital PPE is oriented towards /patient/ protection. And N95s are heavy and uncomfortable. No one can wear them for long. But if anyone wants to, they’re welcome to it.

I have worn N95 masks for probably hundreds of hours due to having had a job in a factory with poor indoor air quality. Wearing them for 30-60 minutes during high risk activities like riding in a packed subway car would not be a problem for most people.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by obituary_latte »

endorphone wrote: post #131
obituary_latte wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they don’t. N95 are solid looking and sometimes have a plastic square housing on the front [0] and surgical masks are paper and pleated [1] [0] https://images.app.goo.gl/RZAgMSssThGJQrnf6 [1] https://images.app.goo.gl/fRW2dmSxUo1Lm1Dh8

Yes, yes they do. I can find a million pictures of N95 masks that look just like a cheap little paper mask (not like surgical masks -- not rectangular. Just cheap and like it's made of paper similar to a paper filter). https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-rxcy1k/products/11668/images...

Now you seem to be just arguing for arguments sake or you’re the kind of person who can’t ever admit to making a mistake or being wrong.

Your linked image in no way objectively looks “just like” cheap square pleated surgical masks. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LyoAAOSwMTFeMbmh/s-l300.png

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by prostheticvamp »

kragen wrote: post #111
prostheticvamp wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They provide no /self/ protection. As I have said in multiple threads on this topic: we wear astm3 masks to protect /patients/ from /us/. A lot of hospital PPE is oriented towards /patient/ protection. And N95s are heavy and uncomfortable. No one can wear them for long. But if anyone wants to, they’re welcome to it.

N95 masks are used in many industries to protect their wearers from particulates, including wet particulates. Many of them have check valves that make them useless for protecting other people from the wearer. We don't yet know how much protection they provide against SARS-CoV-2 infection, because we don't know how essential saliva droplets are to contagion, but they probably provide some. Although there are different…

Have you worn an N95 for any particular amount of time? Honest question. Because Uou refer to a few grams as “not uncomfortable.”

I find N95 face masks insufferably hot and muggy, with their “few grams” hanging off my nose and ears eventually very annoying. I don’t know if any hc workers that find N95s tolerable for very long.

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