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Microsoft may experience firsthand what can happen when you build your business on competitors platform. I'm exaggerating of course but essentially it may happen. The good news is that MS is probably the only company which can actually maintain its own browser in a case if Google goes completely hostile on them. Then this mythical thing called Chromium may materialize as an independent entity from Google, making diff…
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"Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by malice" -Hacker News
I remember when it was Microsoft's browser that everyone feared. They, too, had a remarkable run of incompetence that only ever seemed to flow one way.
If Google were truly behind open web standards then they would have nothing to fear and no need to promote one standards conforming browser (Chrome) over another (Edge, Firefox or whatever). This just shows that the ultimate desire of all these corporate backed browsers is some degree of vendor lock in, which is why they feel the need to advertise their browser when their competitor's is almost 99.9% identical in fun…
These are different teams within Google, and it's kinda not fair to say that Google is not truly behind open web standards. Their whole web developer advocate team is behind open web standards, and pushes it forward everyday. The engineering team actually working on Chrome is behind those standards, and pushes it forward. They work closely with other browser vendors. and try to make everything work everywhere. Then t…
It was incredible to me how aggressively Microsoft came out supportive of the Chrome team and how loudly they discussed the wonderful amount of collaboration the two companies had been up to since starting work on the new Edge. I've seen Googlers responding to Edge developers about how they'll get some mishandling of Edge fixed internally at Google. But really, this is just the same story as before: The "oops" have b…
>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.
I had to help someone with something the other day and saw the current version of gmail in safari and I feel sorry for anyone that has to use that.
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I don't see how that would be a true statement in almost any context, barring specifically using features that you know Chrome doesn't work well with or going through the chromium bug tracker to find things to do that break Chrome.
If developers use Firefox instead of Chrome you do get some rendering bugs in Chrome. Standard compliance have gotten much better, but at one point in my last project Edge, Safari, Chrome, and Firefox where all doing different things while I was trying to fix an odd CSS issue.
It was incredible to me how aggressively Microsoft came out supportive of the Chrome team and how loudly they discussed the wonderful amount of collaboration the two companies had been up to since starting work on the new Edge. I've seen Googlers responding to Edge developers about how they'll get some mishandling of Edge fixed internally at Google. But really, this is just the same story as before: The "oops" have b…
>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.
I actually got curious and tested Firefox with my personal gmail account (using it for >10 years, so it has tons of emails, filters etc). I did not notice any big issues, text rendering seems slightly different, maybe chrome version is slightly snappier but that's it.
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I don't get why you're being downvoted. They're just out-microsofting Microsoft :-)
are they taking open standards and putting extensions on them that are proprietary so users can only access certain services with chrome? if not, then they are not doing any microsofting of any kind
Then they just going to state something like: our service dont support Firefox because Chrome-only feature X is not fully implemented.
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> marketing is doing engineering a disservice I've never seen a company where both marketing and engineering agree on something. Marketing thinks we are a bunch of nerds and we think marketing floors have a much less density regarding neurons per square meter (so, in way we are both right). By the way, marketing always win. They are closer to upper levels, the credit for success is (supposedly) theirs. They suggest a…
Do they even know that Edge is Chrome based?
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>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.
I have been using gmail for quite long time. It is getting ridiculously terrible these days (in the past couple of years I guess!) My old laptop fans go crazy when I launch chrome. It’s too much heavy for a mail client. It’s remarkable how we suck at writing software in the past years.
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These are different teams within Google, and it's kinda not fair to say that Google is not truly behind open web standards. Their whole web developer advocate team is behind open web standards, and pushes it forward everyday. The engineering team actually working on Chrome is behind those standards, and pushes it forward. They work closely with other browser vendors. and try to make everything work everywhere. Then t…
I'm out of the loop. What is "OKR" in this context?
The upper OKR's are usually things like "Product should make XX% more money", or "Become the foremost user-choice for task X". The lower OKR's are usually just things like "build feature X".