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New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by merb »

boulos wrote: post #82
mdasen wrote: post #31

Since people from Google Cloud are likely here, one thing I'd like to ask/talk about: are we getting too many options for compute? One of the great things about Google Cloud was that it was very easy to order. None of this "t2.large" where you'd have to look up how much memory and CPU that it has and potentially how many credits you're going to get per hour and such. I think Google Cloud is still easier, but it's get…

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (and really care about this). The challenge here is balancing diverse customer workloads against the processor vendors. Historically, at Google, we just bought a single server variant (basically) because almost all code is expected to care primarily about scale-out environments. That made the GCE decision simple: offer the same hardware we build for Google, at great prices. The prob…

well the biggest problem is that commited usage discount is not replaceable with the cheaper e2 choices. btw. when we commited our usage to n1, e2 was not available.

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by 867-5309 »

e12e wrote: post #109
867-5309 wrote: post #102

no pricing mentioned I was surprised to discover the other day that one of my VPSs had been upgraded from 1 old Xeon 26XX core to 2 EPYC cores. other stats unmetered 10Gb/s up/down, low latency A'dam location, 2GB RAM, SSD.. it even outperformed my i7-8700T in a single-core openSSL benchmark. most importantly it costs €3/mo I really can't see google competing with that

I see 10gps listed at USD 569/month? https://www.scaleway.com/en/virtual-instances/general-purpos...

I think technically it's 1Gb/s but it must be on a 10Gb/s plane as it bursts at around 3Gb/s

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by Bluecobra »

m0zg wrote: post #9

Well, they may be hypothetically "available" in us-central1, but they don't show up for me. All I see is "Cascade Lake powered" N2.

I saw it show up twice this morning in us-central1 and tried to create an instance but it created a "n1-standard-1" VM instead. I didn't realize this until I logged into the server and looked at /proc/cpuinfo and only saw one CPU and was disappointed. :(

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by exikyut »

blattimwind wrote: post #53
sdesol wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They really are doing something disruptive. I can't quite remember if this is correct (it has been a while since I last studied business), but in business there is a "blue ocean strategy". The basic premise is, if you can provide a product for half the price, with the twice the value, you will destroy the incumbent. What AMD is doing is really insane in my opinion. I'm not sure if they are pricing their processors lo…

> What AMD is doing is really insane in my opinion. I'm not sure if they are pricing their processors low on purpose and/or if they have found a way to manufacture cheaper and/or Intel was screwing consumers with their pricing since they were so dominate. Both. AMD uses chiplets for higher yields compared to Intel's huge monolithic processors (HCC, XCC), which lowers costs, and Intel jacked prices up because they had…

Oooooh, and they can mix and match chiplets that pass progressively more stringent QC stages to build the various SKU classes.

I like it!

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by WhiteOwlLion »

e12e wrote: post #109
867-5309 wrote: post #102

no pricing mentioned I was surprised to discover the other day that one of my VPSs had been upgraded from 1 old Xeon 26XX core to 2 EPYC cores. other stats unmetered 10Gb/s up/down, low latency A'dam location, 2GB RAM, SSD.. it even outperformed my i7-8700T in a single-core openSSL benchmark. most importantly it costs €3/mo I really can't see google competing with that

I see 10gps listed at USD 569/month? https://www.scaleway.com/en/virtual-instances/general-purpos...

Euros is not the same as US Dollar

569 Euro equals 613.73 United States Dollar

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by WhiteOwlLion »

867-5309 wrote: post #132
e12e wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see 10gps listed at USD 569/month? https://www.scaleway.com/en/virtual-instances/general-purpos...

I think technically it's 1Gb/s but it must be on a 10Gb/s plane as it bursts at around 3Gb/s

Most likely 10Gbps shared pipe.

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by WhiteOwlLion »

anderspitman wrote: post #106
Dontrememberit wrote: post #103

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Which VPS?

Yeah that seems a little too good.

The pings times may not be as good to France (or Europe in general), but the bandwidth provisions are much more generous than the USA. They have peering agreements with other ISPs, so hopefully a lot of the transit of that bandwidth ends up being "free" to them. Even on a 100Mbps line, I was able to push 30TB a month, so it is possible if you there is enough demand for the data.

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by e12e »

WhiteOwlLion wrote: post #135
e12e wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see 10gps listed at USD 569/month? https://www.scaleway.com/en/virtual-instances/general-purpos...

Euros is not the same as US Dollar 569 Euro equals 613.73 United States Dollar

Right. Either way it's a little over 3 USD/month..

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by overcast »

tempsy wrote: post #107
overcast wrote: post #83

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Wild is to put it mildly, the stock is historically extremely volatile. If past performance predicts anything, it could potentially tank in the next couple of years, like it did the last few times it shot up. Obviously they are doing some great work, but I wouldn't go all in on them for the long haul.

to each their own. can't have reward without risk. hard to find another investment that returned 30x in a few years.

Sure, but you buy in years ago when it was $3 not all time high. It's sure as shit not going to go 30x from this point in a few years. That's my point, AMD is so cyclical, it's scary right now.

Re: New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta

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Post by tempsy »

overcast wrote: post #139
tempsy wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to each their own. can't have reward without risk. hard to find another investment that returned 30x in a few years.

Sure, but you buy in years ago when it was $3 not all time high. It's sure as shit not going to go 30x from this point in a few years. That's my point, AMD is so cyclical, it's scary right now.

yes that's what i'm saying...
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