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Mozilla’s plan to fix internet privacy

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Re: Mozilla’s plan to fix internet privacy

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Post by 101404 »

DrScientist wrote: post #15

Ex-Mozillian Brendan Eich agrees that privacy is the battle for the future http://www.brave.com The question is - do you need to re-write the internet economy as Brave are trying to to achieve it, and not just block trackers? The third element is that governments are becoming addicted to the vast trove of information gathered - will they be willing to give that up if a technical/business model solution takes off. Int…

I started using Brave recently, and so far I like it. The detailed per site settings to block stuff are great.

Re: Mozilla’s plan to fix internet privacy

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Post by ComodoHacker »

move-on-by wrote: post #98
ComodoHacker wrote: post #68

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>from Yandex or whoever to whitelist them, provided they don't harm privacy I doubt you can find one that doesn't harm privacy. And particulary Yandex will raise other concerns.

Seriously, why would anyone trust the Russian controlled Yandex any more then Google? Might as well be advocating for Baidu as well.

On the other hand, there aren't many Yandex served ads in US, so most people won't care.

Re: Mozilla’s plan to fix internet privacy

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Post by luckylion »

hvis wrote: post #65
prepend wrote: post #47

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It’s not perfect, but I like it better than the alternatives (selling user data, non profit). Technically the browser is nice, but there’s something nice about a for profit org whose incentives are aligned with mine. For now, I use a FireFox for similar reasons, but I like Brave’s mode for the web better than the “bad ad” model that google and Facebook push. I used to like Opera for similar reasons.

What could one find disgreeable in a company being a non-profit?

In a "we depend on the biggest enemy of privacy for funding" kind of way?

Re: Mozilla’s plan to fix internet privacy

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Post by Angostura »

ecmascript wrote: post #129
Angostura wrote: post #114

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> So because you're a CEO you can't believe whatever you want in your spare time? Clearly, if you a CEO and publicly supporting causes, your support for those causes will have an impact on the reputation of the organisation. Now, I sure you can think of examples of more extreme spare-time beliefs that you might think were incompatible with being CEO, so its a question of where you particularly draw the line. (Or perh…

> Now Mozilla has, whether you like it or not decided to build its brand values and ethos around equality and inclusivity Yes I know, this is why I use Brave and why Mozilla is not relevant anymore. At my company we don't really make a lot of effort to test that our product works in Firefox anymore because they have such a low market share. I am basically the only one wanting to fully support firefox, testing every f…

I’d love to see your worked examples of why having brand values based around inclusivity has lead to a drop in market share.

Do you have any evidence for that? Or are you assuming that Brendan’s superior execution skills would have avoided it?

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Post by _8j50 »

Can they focus on making it perform as well as Chrome?

I mean, I support their efforts and all but I am forced to use a chrome based browser because FF has poor windows/sso integration and absolutley horrible memory management. A tab of any tool's webui that does a lot of work with a lot of data will not only bring firefox to a halt but the entire system. I can at least try to use it for soft workloads but you never know when visiting the wrong page will cause this issue again. Why can't it manage it's impact on the rest of the system?

My job performance would tank dramarically if I used firefox exclusively!

Why can't they work to make it better than Chrome? They were throwing Rust at it a few years ago,so what happened? Do they just not test against the right sites?

I mean, the mozilla foundation is not poor. They have money. Is it just politics or do they think getting gmail and youtube to work is all that is needed? I am only saying all this because i like firefox. Mozilla needs a wake up call. Do they not get the problems at hand or do they not care or do they lack some resource or motivation? I mean I will be happy to even buy a license for firefox if they get it to even come close to Chrome's performance. Maybe they have too many well intended fanboy's cheeeing them on?

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

mirthandmadness wrote: post #86
nathanyukai wrote: post #14

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Yes, statistically the majority of people are using Chrome

The majority of people are not digitally literate enough to care about what they're using. How do people preserve social justice if they're not aware that it is being violated in the first place? Who would deliberately step sideways and do something that requires effort when they have no incentive to? Most people just do what is convenient, without bothering to think twice about it.

"People made a different decision than I did, therefore those people must be ignorant."

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Post by m-p-3 »

ilitirit wrote: post #10

> Mozilla lost the browser wars Honest question... who did they lose to? Google Chrome? For me personally, Firefox has been better than Chrome for several years now. The only reason I still load up Chrome is when I want to stream to my Chromecast.

If Mozilla can manage to add Chromecast support (even as an official addon), I can finally fully detach myself from Chrome.

I tried fx_cast but it didn't work with Plex.

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Post by wolco »

realusername wrote: post #31
Ygg2 wrote: post #9

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> Maybe I'm too optimistic. Don't be optimistic, but don't be pesimistic either. Do what you can - donate time or money, or just recommend everyone to not use the piece of carp that is Chrome. Anything based on Chromium counts as well, their codebase is dictated by Google, one way or the other. My mom had so many issues with ads until I installed Firefox for her, and honestly, the ad blockers make the internet a much…

> Do what you can - donate time or money, or just recommend everyone to not use the piece of carp that is Chrome. Or if you are building web products, please use Firefox as your dev browser, that's what I'm doing and it automatically insures that whatever I build will work on Firefox.

I've been doing this for years.

Re: Mozilla’s plan to fix internet privacy

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Post by 101404 »

ilitirit wrote: post #10

> Mozilla lost the browser wars Honest question... who did they lose to? Google Chrome? For me personally, Firefox has been better than Chrome for several years now. The only reason I still load up Chrome is when I want to stream to my Chromecast.

Mostly to themselves. First they lost track when they became successful. Then they lost track again when they started their FfOS. And now they lost track again, being more like a political organization than a software company.

No surprise they lost all their market share.

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