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The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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>By 1994 almost all graphic designers and illustrators were using computers for work. The iPad is a great device but, it isn't essential to anything or anyone. If tomorrow there where no iPads anymore, we would all just get on with our lives.

> The iPad is a great device but, it isn't essential to anything or anyone.

This would only be said by someone who isn't a frontline worker no interacts with any. Unless you see the people who use tablets for work as not really working.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

#132

>By 1994 almost all graphic designers and illustrators were using computers for work. The iPad is a great device but, it isn't essential to anything or anyone. If tomorrow there where no iPads anymore, we would all just get on with our lives.

That's because it's a consumption device, despite the heroic efforts of some people to prove otherwise. If I want to reply to an email I'll walk upstairs to my real computer rather than attempt to do it on our iPad. As Joey Hess said[1] "If it doesn't have a keyboard, I feel that my thoughts are being forced out through a straw." [1] https://usesthis.com/interviews/joey.hess/

If that were the case, do you think Microsoft and Adobe spent money on development of Office and Photoshop foolishly?

The iPad Pros are credited with stopping the slide of iPad revenues - along with all of the accessories.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

#133

>By 1994 almost all graphic designers and illustrators were using computers for work. The iPad is a great device but, it isn't essential to anything or anyone. If tomorrow there where no iPads anymore, we would all just get on with our lives.

I would agree that the iPad isn't essential for home users, other than as a YouTube player for kids and a gaming device for old ladies.

It does however seem to have found it's way into various trades as an information device. For instance is has replaced laptop as the primary device in elder care in many cities in Denmark. It makes perfect sense to use an iPad, it's more portable, the limited interface forces developer to think hard about what input is really required, and it faster to"unlock" than a laptop.

The iPad has develop very quickly from a consumer device to an "Enterprise" solution. You basically only need it, if you can afford to have custom applications developed. For almost everyone else, there's the large screen iPhones.

Apple isn't going to tell us, but it would be interesting to learn how many iPads are going to customers, and how many to companies and governments.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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If all of them disappeared into thin air one night then nearly the entire global aviation system would come to a screeching halt. It’s the device of choice among air carriers for navigation charts. Paper backup isn’t even carried anymore. We just carry extra iPads and batteries. I’m not sure any of the charting apps used by air carriers are even available on another OS at this point. I’ve never been aware of JeppFD P…

so the captain tells us to switch off all electronic devices and then proceeds to navigate the plane via iPad?

I haven't had a captain tell me to turn off electronic devices for years. The flight attendant asks me to remove headphones for the safety briefing, which is reasonable, and we're told to put it into airplane mode for takeoff/landing

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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This is so much worse as of ios13 - which was somehow meant to make text selection better, but for me made it so much less consistent. I really feel like this should be a solvable problem though. It can’t be that complicated to select text reliably.

Agreed — moving the cursor and selecting text has become almost unusable for me on iOS 13 [1]. It's a shame, because I always used to be impressed at how easy and natural it felt. I really hope they figure this out and reinstate the old approach. [1] As I was saying only the other day: https://twitter.com/jawj/status/1221038674193932288

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Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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They even did this silly "corner thing" in the server edition, Windows Server 2012 - I remember the first time I RDP'd onto one, and had no clue how to open the start menu (the Windows key didn't work over RDP)! I had to google it, obviously whilst cursing profusely the whole time. Microsoft have a lot of UI/UX people - it boggles the mind that someone thought this was a good idea!

I legit had to google how to Shut down / Restart a Windows 8 machine back then! It's insane to think that tech people could not figure out the UI, imagine what the regular people had to go through.

I had to open system Help to try to figure out how to log out of Windows NT 4 the first time I used it. We didn’t even have Google.

Helpfully, choosing Help crashed the system, which accomplished my goal.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

#137

>By 1994 almost all graphic designers and illustrators were using computers for work. The iPad is a great device but, it isn't essential to anything or anyone. If tomorrow there where no iPads anymore, we would all just get on with our lives.

If all of them disappeared into thin air one night then nearly the entire global aviation system would come to a screeching halt. It’s the device of choice among air carriers for navigation charts. Paper backup isn’t even carried anymore. We just carry extra iPads and batteries. I’m not sure any of the charting apps used by air carriers are even available on another OS at this point. I’ve never been aware of JeppFD P…

Musicians would also be sad, the iPad seems to be the #1 device to replace sheet music.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Gruber is right that the iPad hasn't revolutionized an industry like the Mac or iPhone. But the iPad was launched smack in the middle of the iPhone and the Mac, not in the middle of a green field. The iPhone had competition below it, from feature phones and Blackberrys. But there was nothing above it. Similarly, the Mac was launched into a very nascent market, where there were competitors (PCs), but it wasn't facing…

The iPad arguably succeeded because it wasn’t a convertible. However, now, especially given big phones, it feels as if some sort of tablet/laptop convergence will eventually be the future.

> especially given big phones

Work tried to upgrade my SE to an XR. The latter is unusable -- too large to hold in one hand while typing, too big for a pocket, far easier to drop, and absolutely no benefits from a larger screen - if I wanted a larger screen I'd get an ipad.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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That's because it's a consumption device, despite the heroic efforts of some people to prove otherwise. If I want to reply to an email I'll walk upstairs to my real computer rather than attempt to do it on our iPad. As Joey Hess said[1] "If it doesn't have a keyboard, I feel that my thoughts are being forced out through a straw." [1] https://usesthis.com/interviews/joey.hess/

If that were the case, do you think Microsoft and Adobe spent money on development of Office and Photoshop foolishly? The iPad Pros are credited with stopping the slide of iPad revenues - along with all of the accessories.

Honestly I think companies are (mostly) wasting their money porting desktop software to iPads. There's going to be niches where it makes perfect sense, but Office for the iPad is going to be a waste of money. Home users don't need it, business have laptops and desktop for those things, and Word is a poor note taking app of field work. To be fair I believe that the iPad is a poor note taking platform in general.

For specialized software, tailored to specific fields, with only the interaction elements for particular jobs the iPad can be a much better fit than a laptop. Those jobs however aren't generic enough that off shelf software make a ton of sense.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Text selection is the most broken thing to me on an ipad. It makes any kind of editing pretty much unusable. Great device to browse the web from my bathtub and watch movies on a plane, but haven’t found any other usage.

My favorite pet peeve is trying to edit URLs in the address bar in Safari. Just trying to get the cursor to the end of the address field a an error prone chore. Often the text is select and there’s no way to unselect it. Then of course it doesn’t help when you want to remove some components of the URL that Safari helpfully autocompletes back to the URL you jus visited.

This is one of the reasons I don't understand why there are so many iPhone/iOS fanboys... are they actually never experiencing these kind of frustrating bits of iOS or are they just ignoring them? Because I experience them all the time. Only reason I haven't switched back to Android (yet) is that I love the form factor of the iPhone SE.
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