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Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by maxsilver »

remote_phone wrote: post #86

Companies need to make money. People need to be paid good wages. I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. Most people expect things for free or very cheap and I blame the Apple App Store for that. Everyone expects their software to be free or $0.99 nowadays. Even $3.99 is considered too expensive. All this is doing is creating deflation in our industry. Software should be expensive…

> I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. . Software should be expensive. We don’t need unions, we need to change people’s expectations on how much software costs and not drive down prices to $0.

Hard disagree with absolutely all of this.

All people need unions, literally every human on earth deserves a union. If you work for anyone, anywhere, doing anything, you deserve a union. Any employee without a union is in an inherently unfair position, and is being taken advantage of.

Software should be cheap. Software should be as low cost as possible, without committing some sort of evil (sacrificing quality or working conditions or polluting, etc).

And a major goal of all humanity should be to drive the cost of all things as close to $0 as possible, without hurting anyone or doing anything unethical. We should be intentionally aiming for zero scarcity in all things, that's what progress is.

Making software some sort of expensive luxury that only certain people can afford is terrible, and that logic being applied to everything (from housing, to education, to healthcare and more) is the biggest problem in society today.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by Semaphor »

solarkraft wrote: post #128
Semaphor wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows, C#, formerly Visual Studio, now Rider. Of course with admin rights. Do you realize .NET is pretty big in the business world, long before it even became cross platform with netcore or there being a crossplatform IDE?

What are the main benefits? Have you tried using it for WPF? Unfortunately I let my test license expire before I could test much, but remember that it felt a lot less awful than Visual Studio.

No WPF, no. Main benefits: Features of ReSharper without the speed tax of ReSharper ;)

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by ShakataGaNai »

lowdose wrote: post #107
gmaster1440 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem like it supports Windows, so in many people's case (including mine) not a viable alternative. Otherwise looks like a great product.

I don't know any dev on a Windows setup, it's either Linux or MacOS. So this is a very serious question and I even up voted you out of interest. Do you own the admin rights to your dev work setup?

Some people in the Python community were recently looking into this very thing... and the results were surprising.

From https://talkpython.fm/episodes/show/243/python-on-windows-is...

"over 50% of all developers programming in Python do so on Windows."

Maybe the researcher is right, maybe they aren't. There is no solid way to tell. But there are a lot of developers out there in big, old school corporate environments. All running Windows.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by satyrnein »

maxsilver wrote: post #131
remote_phone wrote: post #86

Companies need to make money. People need to be paid good wages. I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. Most people expect things for free or very cheap and I blame the Apple App Store for that. Everyone expects their software to be free or $0.99 nowadays. Even $3.99 is considered too expensive. All this is doing is creating deflation in our industry. Software should be expensive…

> I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. . Software should be expensive. We don’t need unions, we need to change people’s expectations on how much software costs and not drive down prices to $0. Hard disagree with absolutely all of this. All people need unions, literally every human on earth deserves a union. If you work for anyone, anywhere, doing anything, you deserve a union.…

I mostly agree and wrote a similar sibling comment. However, I'm still trying to grasp your comments regarding unions.

Would that mean that nobody can have individual salary negotiations? Your colleagues can vote that you have to strike? Are VPs and Directors in the same union with line level employees, or what are the "sides"?

I've never worked in a union environment, so this might be an unintentional caricature.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by therealmarv »

lowdose wrote: post #107
gmaster1440 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem like it supports Windows, so in many people's case (including mine) not a viable alternative. Otherwise looks like a great product.

I don't know any dev on a Windows setup, it's either Linux or MacOS. So this is a very serious question and I even up voted you out of interest. Do you own the admin rights to your dev work setup?

There is an easy explanation: Look into big (and maybe boring) companies&cooperations who are not this SF Silicon Valley shiny unicorns. They are mostly forced to use Windows on their desk without any alternative except maybe their servers.

Witnessed this myself in a lot of companies... they will never change.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by fxleach »

jjeaff wrote: post #106
fxleach wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"...years of blasting away money in favor of growth-at-all-costs" - Maybe those companies should go under?

They should go under rather than just raise prices? Seems logical to try raising prices first.

Agreed, just funny how the commenter says they're blasting away money for years in one sentence but then seems to try and justify the price increase in the next.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by awinder »

remote_phone wrote: post #86

Companies need to make money. People need to be paid good wages. I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. Most people expect things for free or very cheap and I blame the Apple App Store for that. Everyone expects their software to be free or $0.99 nowadays. Even $3.99 is considered too expensive. All this is doing is creating deflation in our industry. Software should be expensive…

I mean you’re right, companies need to make money, but it’s not the users fault. The play postman made (and a lot of other companies) was that they could make up for low profit margins with high/increasing user growth indefinitely. That’s how you get high valuations with low current profit. When companies have to quickly & drastically make large pricing changes, they’re implicitly telling you that the state of affairs at that company is that they need to make money now on current users.

Companies have obligations to build real businesses & products that are based on realistic & solid plans from day 1. And they need to adjust those plans when things change, but by building a real company from day 1, those changes should be realistic and measured.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by Aduket »

solarkraft wrote: post #126
lowdose wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know any dev on a Windows setup, it's either Linux or MacOS. So this is a very serious question and I even up voted you out of interest. Do you own the admin rights to your dev work setup?

I work on WPF apps on Windows (it's pretty frustrating).

what major frustrations do you face in WPF? thanks in advance.
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