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British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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Re: British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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You mean how the Bay Area, which is fairly urban, has precious few urgent care clinics open until 10 pm and, I believe, literally none open after 10pm? I went to one of these urgent care clinics once and got charged $650 for about 5 minutes of doctor time and a single DermaBond stick. The latter costs something like $20. Oh yeah, I asked how much I would be charged before the doc saw me and they refused to answer. $1…

You went to the doctor for a bandaid? Seriously? Could you not apply said bandaid yourself? Why would you waste a doctors time and your money for that?

DermaBond is not a bandaid. I personally did not have a container of sterile saline, a pack of sterile gauze, a DermaBond cartridge, and the expertise to evaluate exactly what was needed.

And yes, I have bandaids.

Re: British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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the cold won't distribute at all ?

It will but much more slowly. Think of cooling the blood as using the surface area of the arteries and veins as a heat sink to cool the body. Without that blood moving your next best heat sink is the skin so start piling on the ice.

The body itself is the heat sink. The skin is a radiator. The blood is the liquid in a liquid cooling system (moving heat from the sink to the radiator). To your point, liquid cooling systems become _much_ less effective when the liquid stops pumping.

Re: British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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Because it's hard. I helped out at a company among many that are trying to develop a system that would allow you to do this in ambulance and they started testing prototypes 10 years ago and have yet to progress from that stage.

It's not that hard... you just throw some ice packs in the groin and armpits. You won't get them fully into the TTM range in a 20 minute transport, but you can start the process.

That is extremely ineffective.

What you might want to do is to cool the brain through cooling the outside of the head as well as through the nasal cavity.

Even if you chug a giant slurpee the largest effect on the brain temperature will be the cooling of the nasal cavity on it's way down.

Re: British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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Lightning strikes don't wipe people's personalities. Also during epileptic seizures people's neurons fire in abnormal ways, but then return to normal afterwards. So I'd say that the RAM isn't critical; humans can boot from disk.

> humans can boot from disk wow, this is so intriguing. i like this analogy even if i don't know how accurate it is. we indeed have things that we forget (running out of space?) and things that take time to remember (disk latency).

Forgetting things is more like a lost pointer.

Re: British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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Sounds like a good way to introduce frostbite

Those spots are not prone to frostbite, since the "coldness" gets distributed through the rest of the body very quickly (apologies for playing a little fast and loose with thermodynamics there). This is why they're used in the first place to cool the person quickly.

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Re: British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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Wasn't a joke. I went to the US on business - our corporate insurance means there's a $1000 excess that we pay up front. Went to a hospital for a minor issue. At no point was there any price list shown, at the end I was asked for $390 before been given my prescription. That was the end of it I thought, sickeningly high charge for 2 minutes with a doctor, a 10p tablet, and hours of waiting around. I asked for an itemi…

One of the reasons why I don't go to the USA anymore. Past 50 the chances of something medical popping up are higher than they were in the past and I just can't afford worrying about this. The total list of why I don't go there anymore is much longer but this is definitely one item on the list. This sucks because I have more friends in the USA than I do anywhere else and I miss them.

That shouldn't stop you. Comprehensive travel insurance can be had for short and long trips for $50 - $150. Prices for US travel insurance are around the same as insurance for visiting other developed countries such as Japan or Switzerland. All the terms are clearly spelled out.

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/travel-insurance

Re: British woman revived after six-hour cardiac arrest

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Correction: his complications happened Because he was at the hospital. People don't realize this. They use these cases as examples why home births are dangerous, yet ignore the fact that the hospital environment and interventions are the cause of most complications.

Source on your knowledge of OP’s child’s birth?
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