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Re: McMindfulness: How mindfulness became the new capitalist spirituality

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Post by hownottowrite » Sun, Dec 01, 2019, 1:04 PM UTC

philwelch wrote: post #118

hownottowrite wrote: post #116

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The original definition of hijack refers to the seizure of goods in transit, typically contraband. Vehicles were involved as well, but it was really about prohibition booze. Exclusive application to vehicles didn’t come about until the mid-late 60s. Since then, it’s been applied to ideas, concepts, and even things like meetings and parties. Basically, taking things by force for other means.

Yes but I think most people think of eg storming an airliner cockpit as “literal hijacking” and the notion of hijacking “ideas, concepts, and even things like meetings and parties” as metaphorical.

That doesn’t change the definition or the etymology of the term. Why are you getting bent of shape about it? Or are you just hijacking the comment for lulz?

Re: McMindfulness: How mindfulness became the new capitalist spirituality

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Post by Nancy59 » Sun, Dec 01, 2019, 11:32 PM UTC

Kaveren wrote: post #125

Nancy59 wrote: post #123

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The following well-conducted studies compared mindfulness to various other 'treatments': Alsaraireh, et al. (2017). Mindfulness Meditation Versus Physical Exercise in the Management of Depression Among Nursing Students. Journal of Nursing Education, 56(10), 599-604. Cherkin, et al. (2016). Effect of mindfulness-based stress reduction vs cognitive behavioral therapy or usual care on back pain and functional limitation…

Thanks, I'll look into the studies you mentioned. Edit: "CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE: "Among adults with chronic low back pain, treatment with MBSR or CBT, compared with usual care, resulted in greater improvement in back pain and functional limitations at 26 weeks, with no significant differences in outcomes between MBSR and CBT." I don't consider this evidence in favor of mindfulness. The claim I make is that mindful…

Regarding your comment about mindfulness and CBT – did you know that a large component of CBT is mindfulness? That is the reason why they do not find a big difference in some of the studies.

Also, do you know what mindfulness is? It goes way beyond simple relaxation – it is also about getting to know your mind and developing self-knowledge, etc. If you had a look at the links I posted in a different comment here, you might get a better idea about what mindfulness is, etc., and you will also see that the brain also changes (in positive ways) with mindfulness practices. Anyway, below are some meta-analyses:

Blanck, P., et al. (2018). Effects of mindfulness exercises as stand-alone intervention on symptoms of anxiety and depression: Systematic review and meta-analysis. Behaviour research and therapy, 102, 25-35.

Scott-Sheldon, L. A., et al. (2019). Mindfulness-Based Interventions for Adults with Cardiovascular Disease: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Annals of Behavioral Medicine.

Wang, Y. Y., et al. (2018). Mindfulness-based interventions for insomnia: a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials. Behavioral sleep medicine, 1-9.

Zou, L., et al. (2018). A systematic review with meta-analysis of mindful exercises on rehabilitative outcomes among poststroke patients. Archives of physical medicine and rehabilitation, 99(11), 2355-2364.

Goldberg, S. B., et al. (2018). Mindfulness-based interventions for psychiatric disorders: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Clinical psychology review, 59, 52-60.

Carsley, D., Khoury, B., & Heath, N. L. (2018). Effectiveness of mindfulness interventions for mental health in schools: A comprehensive meta-analysis. Mindfulness, 9(3), 693-707.

Carrière, K., et al. (2018). Mindfulness‐based interventions for weight loss: a systematic review and meta‐analysis. Obesity Reviews, 19(2), 164-177.

Dunning, D. L., et al. (2019). Research Review: The effects of mindfulness‐based interventions on cognition and mental health in children and adolescents–a meta‐analysis of randomized controlled trials. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 60(3), 244-258.

Borquist-Conlon, D. S., et al. (2019). Mindfulness-based interventions for youth with anxiety: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Research on Social Work Practice, 29(2), 195-205.

Van Driel, C. M., et al. (2019). Mindfulness, cognitive behavioural and behaviour‐based therapy for natural and treatment‐induced menopausal symptoms: a systematic review and meta‐analysis. BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, 126(3), 330-339.

Simpson, R., et al. (2019). Mindfulness-based interventions for mental well-being among people with multiple sclerosis: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomised controlled trials. Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery & Psychiatry, 90(9), 1051-1058.

DiRenzo, D., et al. (2018). Systematic review and meta-analysis: mindfulness-based interventions for rheumatoid arthritis. Current rheumatology reports, 20(12), 75.

Rusch, H. L., et al. (2018). The effect of mindfulness meditation on sleep quality: a systematic review and meta‐analysis of randomized controlled trials. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences.

Li, J., et al. (2018). Mindful exercise versus non-mindful exercise for schizophrenia: A systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials. Complementary therapies in clinical practice, 32, 17-24.

Khoo, E. L., et al. (2019). Comparative evaluation of group-based mindfulness-based stress reduction and cognitive behavioural therapy for the treatment and management of chronic pain: A systematic review and network meta-analysis. Evidence-based mental health, 22(1), 26-35.

Re: McMindfulness: How mindfulness became the new capitalist spirituality

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Post by philwelch » Mon, Dec 02, 2019, 5:58 AM UTC

hownottowrite wrote: post #131

philwelch wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but I think most people think of eg storming an airliner cockpit as “literal hijacking” and the notion of hijacking “ideas, concepts, and even things like meetings and parties” as metaphorical.

That doesn’t change the definition or the etymology of the term. Why are you getting bent of shape about it? Or are you just hijacking the comment for lulz?

Am I literally hijacking the comment?

Re: McMindfulness: How mindfulness became the new capitalist spirituality

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Post by hownottowrite » Mon, Dec 02, 2019, 7:38 PM UTC

philwelch wrote: post #133

hownottowrite wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn’t change the definition or the etymology of the term. Why are you getting bent of shape about it? Or are you just hijacking the comment for lulz?

Am I literally hijacking the comment?

Maaaaybeee

Re: McMindfulness: How mindfulness became the new capitalist spirituality

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Post by asimovfan » Mon, Dec 09, 2019, 8:57 PM UTC

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #14

asimovfan wrote: post #5

This doesn't matter. Someone who actually practices mindfulness will reap benefits. Capitalism has no power over the method.

Capitalism will quite happily reap the benefits by squeezing their mindful employees just a little bit harder.

real meditation is enjoying being squeezed ;)