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Re: How can you know what news is real?

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Post by pixl97 » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 2:00 PM UTC

entropy_ wrote: post #49

schalab wrote: post #45

I dont think ownership is the main problem. The larger problem seems to be global. The ability to be expressive comes with it certain biological traits and dispositions. These traits may determine your viewpoints on matters. So, if I hire journalists purely based on their writing ability, I may find most of them have very similar political views. If I create an industry of the best actors/musicians, again I may find…

"The ability to be expressive comes with it certain biological traits and dispositions. These traits may determine your viewpoints on matters." This is an extremely hand-wavy assumption that you're basing your arguments on. Any evidence to back that up? It would seem to me that the ability to express one's views would be orthogonal to one's viewpoints on various matters.

> It would seem to me that the ability to express one's views would be orthogonal to one's viewpoints on various matters.

Since when? I know quite a number of brilliant engineers in different fields. Most of them should never be put in front of a camera or a general audience for public speaking. Having strong and even well understood viewpoints does not mean you have the ability to translate them outside of your domain well. That is a rather rare trait.

Re: How can you know what news is real?

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Post by pixl97 » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 2:03 PM UTC

darren0 wrote: post #64

It's somewhat ironic that you can't even trust this article. There's an obvious bias towards a "power struggle" view of the world's problems. The issue with the current state of affairs is essentially assumed to be because of billionaires and corporate consolidation. The solution presented is then to give more power to the people. Neither point is substantiated by fact. One could just as easily argue that the state o…

Its generally thought that trust in media was dropping before the advent of the blog. Massive consolidation in the media industry along with the event of 24 hour news where something had to fill the channel at all times is considered a precursor to the situation we are in.

Re: How can you know what news is real?

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Post by pixl97 » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 2:05 PM UTC

IngvarLynn wrote: post #88

sideshowb wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have heard of deepfakes, right?

The need to properly digitally sign absolutely all content is higher than ever.

Which again, has a multitude of problems.

Re: How can you know what news is real?

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Post by Red_Leaves_Flyy » Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 7:48 PM UTC

edejong wrote: post #126

Red_Leaves_Flyy wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, because you found one, rather extreme case, where blindly consuming disparate pieces of information is maybe harmful you're arguing the entire premise is flawed? The statement is not "at the sacrifice of all else, memorize everything possible." If you take any advice to a logical extreme it will likely become bad advice. Maybe you should try to consider things from different angles before you capriciously write t…

Personally I am of the opinion that one should always consider the knowledge one gathers similarly to the food one eats and the friends one keeps. One burger doesn’t make you fat, nor does one bad friend make you criminal. But we’d better make conscious decisions lest we’ll be a 200kg drug dealing gang member who believes the earth is flat.

Seems like you're agreeing with me in a very abrasive way.

Re: How can you know what news is real?

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Post by edejong » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 6:19 PM UTC

Red_Leaves_Flyy wrote: post #134

edejong wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I am of the opinion that one should always consider the knowledge one gathers similarly to the food one eats and the friends one keeps. One burger doesn’t make you fat, nor does one bad friend make you criminal. But we’d better make conscious decisions lest we’ll be a 200kg drug dealing gang member who believes the earth is flat.

Seems like you're agreeing with me in a very abrasive way.

No, I am not in agreement. We should always be careful with the information we gather and keep a focus. That’s different from: more information is always better.

I am not a native speaker. Where did you thought I was abrasive?