Instead of ads, it will just have a huge banner on top with Jimmy Wales' face asking for donations.
Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#132With things like GNU Social you can have your own social network effectively free and you 100% control it. How can this compete with that? The only real way is the network effect (all your friends are on it so you feel like you have no choice but to join because it's going to be very hard to get everyone to switch to your network). WT Social doesn't have that, so... ?
The problem with all solutions to facebook (and this one) is getting a critical mass to join them. People use Facebook because _everyone_ is on facebook. I don't need to think "Is my cousins boyfriend on Facebook?" you just know they are. Without that assurance, you'll end up with two invites for a function, and that is more work for little gain.
"People use Facebook because _everyone_ is on facebook."
There was a time when everyone was not on Facebook.
Every social network with a critical mass now started without one.
Back around when Facebook started, MySpace was massive. Now it's extinct.
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Part of Prime is getting you to give them $120 membership fee so you feel youre getting some kind of bonus buying from them ("free shipping") which reduces comparison shopping. I'm probably not going to buy $100/year memberships to costco, walmart, amazon, and target, even though im half way there and really tempted to pull the trigger on another. The membership fees almost pay for themselves just in preventing me fr…
I agree with you on the Amazon Prime membership triggering impulse purchases, stickiness with the one day or two day deliveries and of course, shipping built into the products' prices. But Amazon Prime video here (in India) has a lot of local content and gets many new movies quickly onto it. My assessment is that Prime Video is probably a bigger attraction for people here (perhaps with Prime Music) than two day shipp…
The one nice thing about Prime vs Prime video, is they advertise both prices separately, so we can at least get a peak at what percent of the prime cost amazon thinks video is worth. We know they arent selling Video by itself at a loss, it wouldnt make sense to give away video as a loss leader, if you arent snagging people elsewhere.
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#134I checked it out by creating an account. It detected my country as India, and showed the price to jump the waitlist (currently at 60k) as $12.99 a month or $100 a year. Contrast this to (using current conversion rates from INR to USD): * Netflix here starts at $2.8 for the cheapest (mobile only, single screen) plan and has its highest plan (4K, four screens) at $11.2 a month. Netflix is considered so expensive that a…
Just imagine Facebook without Indians.
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#135Just my guess, but I bet that from this point on, few people (in the developed world) will race to sign up for a new social network. Why? Given the societal and personal costs (and benefits) that we've seen with previous social networks, a lot of lay people are re-evaluating the utility that such services provide them. In many cases, the answer is to keep your current social network, but increasingly disengage from i…
I have a fairly large network of friends that existed before FB really had wide adoption. The platform they were on eventually died in favor of facebook. At this point, I'd like to preserve that network of friends independent of facebook and most of those folks feel similarly. In that sense, there is at least some demand for a social network that isn't evil.
For your use case, what part of your need isn't provided by a phone/address-book? I suspect it's the receipt of broadcast messages from your friend network? If so, then yes, you need a social network with features like FB.
Personally, I'd rather not receive those kind of messages - I only want to receive messages that someone specifically thought to send to me. Doing so dramatically reduces noise. The only exception to this is broadcast messages from important networks with built-in hard trust boundaries (the email list for my kids' classroom, my neighborhood watch list, the Whatsapp group with only me, my wife, my brother, and sister in law - not even parents), and even on those, I will leave if they become more of a cost than a benefit.
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#136I can pull the Associated Press' RSS feed for free. Likewise with the BBC and ProPublica and The Intercept.
Why would I pay $13/month for news I can get for free without useless "social" features and data collection?
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#137This is the worst attempt I've ever seen at building a social network. 3 out of 4 of the major social networks were started by 20-22yos, 4 out of 4 were initially for teens only, 3 out of 3 in the last 10 years were mobile-only, ios-only I could go on forever but the point is it doesn't even get the basics right. If you're interested in how one builds a successful social network check Nikita's tweets (sold TBH to Fac…
> 4 out of 4 were initially for teens
Facebook was for college students, not teens.
But otherwise, yeah, if the plan is to capture a significant audience, this is a horrible attempt wrt to UI and messaging.
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Part of Prime is getting you to give them $120 membership fee so you feel youre getting some kind of bonus buying from them ("free shipping") which reduces comparison shopping. I'm probably not going to buy $100/year memberships to costco, walmart, amazon, and target, even though im half way there and really tempted to pull the trigger on another. The membership fees almost pay for themselves just in preventing me fr…
100$s? Amazon prime membership is 1000rs per year, which is less than 14$ a year.
Lucky you. In the US it is $119/yr.
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#139With things like GNU Social you can have your own social network effectively free and you 100% control it. How can this compete with that? The only real way is the network effect (all your friends are on it so you feel like you have no choice but to join because it's going to be very hard to get everyone to switch to your network). WT Social doesn't have that, so... ?
> With things like GNU Social you can have your own social network
"I'm a mog - half man, half dog. I'm my own best friend."
Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival
#140And build with.. oh donated money. Now we can donate more again :)
Is anybody worrying how much Wikipedia pages are hiding researchers results ?
Oh, please. I would rather use good ol' VK before these CIA books