Initially I liked the concept of brave, but they destroyed themselves by bloating it with this coin/payment stuff that is not possible to remove 100%. Back to Firefox now.
It’s opt in. You never really tried brave didn’t you?
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would personally much rather allocate actual dollars instead of CryptoBuckOfTheDay backed by ads I have no desire to ever watch. Say, $20/month that gets allocated to sites I visit. The whole "reward people for watching ads" model just seems... wrong.
Why does it seem wrong? Internet ads use your internet connection and time. Why should I watch them for free?
The real question is: Why should you watch them at all?
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#133If people like Brave's ad model, all the power to them. I would personally never touch it. I'm not philosophically on board with the idea that paying people to look at ads is a pragmatic way forward. It doesn't matter if it's opt-in, free-to-play games with loot crates are opt-in, but the decision to go down that road will effect their decision making process when designing new features and I don't want to be part of…
I'm skeptical of the model too, and have no intention of using Brave. But: you can also not enable ads and buy BATs yourself. This gives you a single system to distribute donations to content you enjoy. Which is actually quite an interesting concept, since it is low effort/automatic for the user and yet allows small contributions. Of course it also gives Brave a potentially huge position of power, which is my biggest…
> gives Brave a potentially huge position of power
But since BAT is an ERC token, how can they control who gives money to whom, and indeed do they even know that?
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#134Just tried it. Still no Android Autofill support.
Don't want to enable less secure legacy accessibility support.
https://community.brave.com/t/android-autofill-api-enabled-i...
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#135If people like Brave's ad model, all the power to them. I would personally never touch it. I'm not philosophically on board with the idea that paying people to look at ads is a pragmatic way forward. It doesn't matter if it's opt-in, free-to-play games with loot crates are opt-in, but the decision to go down that road will effect their decision making process when designing new features and I don't want to be part of…
The Brave approach seems to be the same as the infamous Adblock Plus, i.e. insert themselves as a middle-man between websites & ad networks on the one side and the user on the other and under the guise of "ethical ad blocking" extract a ransom.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did Brave ever claim to reduce the use of ads? As I understand, they want to shift the revenue model and put control back in hands of users. You can use their browser and ignore ads (also not receive Bats) or you can see ads and receive compensation for it.
> Did Brave ever claim to reduce the use of ads? Are you serious? Ad-blocking by default is a core part of the marketing and self-description. I'm actually amazed they replace ads instead of just "uBlock"-ing them. Sounds like a joke. Look at the copy on https://brave.com/ and https://brave.com/download/ Are you telling me the average person reads "blocks ads" and expects it to mean "we replace ads with our own"?
Viewing Brave ads is opt-in, not opt-out.
However, they do nag you a bit about it. There's an icon for Brave Rewards in the address bar with a "1" badge asking if you'd like to opt-in (Toggle in Settings to hide this icon). It also asks you during setup and then if you skip (no Deny, Disagree, etc.; just skip), it shows a pop-up on the new tab page immediately after asking for the same thing.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
You disable competitors ads to show your own. Something is wrong with it.
10 (5?) years ago, that used to be called malware.
It is nice analogy. Sophisticated malware disabled competitor's malware to be the one and only, acting like antivirus software.
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#138Why does the BAT mining extension continue to run even if I opt-out of the rewards system?
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#139No thanks. Sticking with Firefox.
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#140Source for the performance claims?
Are they not upstreaming performance change for chromium?