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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by Klonoar »

mcv wrote: post #104

A co-worker is really impressed with all the improvements, but they seem to mostly be improvements over previous poor ideas from Apple, that other brands already had or never abandoned. I admit, a 16" screen in a 15" body sounds really nice. But most of this is stuff other brands already had.

The other brands don't have macOS. Running a Mac isn't just hardware.

People were annoyed because they don't want to run a different OS. Yes, you could get cheaper/powerful hardware somewhere else... but it's not macOS. Hackintoshes need not apply here.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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snowwrestler wrote: post #52

11 years ago I bought a 15” MacBook Pro, the first model year with the unibody design. I’m still using it almost every day for web browsing, watching videos, editing documents, etc. In 2008, it cost $2,400. The new 16” released today costs... $2,400.

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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by mcv »

snowwrestler wrote: post #52

11 years ago I bought a 15” MacBook Pro, the first model year with the unibody design. I’m still using it almost every day for web browsing, watching videos, editing documents, etc. In 2008, it cost $2,400. The new 16” released today costs... $2,400.

Yeah, but that extra inch, man!

I agree, though. My old 2011 MBP was fantastic. A few months ago the video card finally died, otherwise I'd still be using it. Modern macbooks barely seem to have any keyboard keys anymore.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by Traster »

It's amazing to see such a positive response to such weak sauce with the touchbar. Our expectations really have fallen through the floor. There is no reason the escape key needs to be physical that doesn't also apply to the function keys. So why has Apple admitted the touchbar doesn't work, but still forces you to use it for F keys. With this form factor it wouldn't have been difficult to have function keys as well as a touchbar- but Apple don't seem interested in actually solving this problem.

I'm very tired of having to settle for serious shortcomings in what used to be such a great product.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by Zenst »

throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

When it comes to function keys, you either use them lots or rarely and for the former, yes - a physical key is prefered by far. However I see the advantages in other situations with the touchbar, however it would be great if the users had a choice. How hard would it be to have the touchbar in a modular design form that was user changeable and they could fit a row of keys instead?

However, there is always the option of an external keyboard. But then you end up carrying even more peripherals that you end up with a really thin light laptop and a second bag with all the adapters to enable to you to use the laptop in the way you want. For some it does feel like you got sold an electric sports car, yet end up having to tow a caravan about to carry all the spare batteries and other accessories you had in your previous car.

But certainly an opportunity to embrace modular design and allow the end user to customize in a way that has benefits and would win over pundits.

EDIT [spelling and fat finger W's]

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by bluedino »

htk wrote: post #50
throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

I feel the same. The stubbornness of Apple that was so frustrating is a bit more flexible now, paying attention to "subtle" feedback like the arrow key's sizes.

Follow the money. It was cheaper to stick with that design for 3 iterations than it was to change it.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by retromario »

Ambroos wrote: post #77

For others who might be wondering, this replaces the 15-inch MacBook Pro. There's a small increase in size (15 vs 16): - Thickness: 1.55cm to 1.62cm (+0.7mm, +4.5%) - Width: 34.93cm to 35.79cm (+0.86cm, +2.5%) - Depth: 24.07cm to 24.59cm (+0.52cm, +2.2%) - Weight: 1.83kg to 2.0kg (+170gr, +9.3%) The display alone is ~1.3cm wider (and ~0.7cm higher), so there was a small reduction in bezel sizes, allowing the screen t…

That's actually a thickness increase of 0.7mm.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by ngcc_hk »

Got my 2019 top spec but then revert to get a macbook old stock for daily use. The macbook 12 inch is great. Work nicely with my ipad. Can’t do two screen even the 2nd screen did show. But all is fine. The 15 cold feet.
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