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Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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Mobile is all about surveillance as near as I can see. The whole purpose of it is to track users.

There were mobile phones decades before any of this existed.

And to the extent that this was practical, they have always been used for surveillance.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#132

Somewhat related: when i re-install Youtube or Google Home i am automatically logged in to both apps. Even if i delete the apps and wait weeks/months and then reinstall, i'm logged in again when i first open them. I have enabled "Settings > Privacy > Advertising > Limit Ad Tracking" and also cleared all Safari history. How is this possible?

Do you have any other google apps installed in your phone? Apps from the same developer can share information.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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post #132

Somewhat related: when i re-install Youtube or Google Home i am automatically logged in to both apps. Even if i delete the apps and wait weeks/months and then reinstall, i'm logged in again when i first open them. I have enabled "Settings > Privacy > Advertising > Limit Ad Tracking" and also cleared all Safari history. How is this possible?

Do you have any other google apps installed in your phone? Apps from the same developer can share information.

No... I don't have any Google app installed.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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post #43

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To save a photo someone sends her, my girlfriend's mother takes a screenshot. A lot of her printed photos have battery or other information on them.

It blows my mind, and makes me nervous about my own future, that old people do this kind of thing. Are they actually incapable of learning the right way to do things? Is neuroplasticity playing a role here? Do they not care that their images look terrible when zoomed in on? I guess they grew up in an era when photos frequently had time and date stamps, and if their eyesight is going... I guess that explains both poin…

What's the "right way" to do things anyway? I know quite well how to tap the share icon, then wait for the drawer to appear, then scroll down a bit, then tap the save icon, then wait for the next drawer to appear, then tap "To photos" or whatever.

Or I can just hit two physical buttons on my phone and grab the image in the form of a screenshot. Because I don't care about the image fidelity, I usually just want to share the thing on Discord or Slack or wherever.

Don't be so arrogant as to assume that people doing things differently than you must be too stupid or old or blind to do it "the right way".

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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The point is that the app can just record the old IDFA, and when the IDFA changes whoever is doing the comparison between two apps knows that the old and new IDFA are one and the same.

A likely-good-enough fix would be for Apple to first make extremely clear that this is not allowed, then catch one ad framework/library provider violating the rule and ban every single app/publisher using it to ensure the rule is actually taken seriously.

How do you “catch” them? The ID is sent from the app and not in plaintext.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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post #98

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> How about slowing down the OS when the device gets older to “save battery life”? This is false, it was to avoid situations where the battery couldn’t provide enough current and would likely cut out causing the phone to switch off. It seems the intentions were reasonable to keep older phones usable for longer and they fairly quickly rolled out a large discount on the cost of battery replacement when the public outra…

I strongly disagree. The intention may have been to avoid abrupt power downs but their implementation also made sure people upgraded their devices rather than buy a new battery because most people would never be able to imagine that a device could be slow because of a bad battery. This, IMO, was a dark pattern. A sudden power down would be clear indicator that something is wrong with the device while a gradual slow d…

Ok, you have a phone that got slower, but works. And you got phone which just switches off randomly.

Which one are you more likely to replace sooner?

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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post #119

A Linux phone is what we need. FirefoxOS was a great initiative from Mozilla, but now it is in the hands of a company I do not trust.

A Linux phone is what you want. We (for whatever that is) for sure do not need it.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#138

If only someone had created a viable alternative to both Google and Apple's phones. Maybe they could base it on the browser? Web technologies are getting pretty good these days. One of the popular browsers that are an alternative to safari and google chrome... Like some sort of browser-OS.

How do you carry a browser in your pocket?

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#139

If only someone had created a viable alternative to both Google and Apple's phones. Maybe they could base it on the browser? Web technologies are getting pretty good these days. One of the popular browsers that are an alternative to safari and google chrome... Like some sort of browser-OS.

Every platform that has tried that for the last decade has failed - Palm, Firefox, RIM, and Microsoft have all had development platforms “based on web technologies”.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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post #122
post #119

A Linux phone is what we need. FirefoxOS was a great initiative from Mozilla, but now it is in the hands of a company I do not trust.

Yes, Librem 5 is our hope. Also, Pinephone.

Yeah, but why can't anyone make sane size mobiles nowadays? There's literally nothing less than 5 inches on the market.

I would love something like the SEX here: https://i.imgur.com/OKZiWrN.png

Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20936147

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