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Re: Soli

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How is Soli any different? I know that if I put my hand in this spot and make the motion of turning a dial then it will turn down the volume, and I can hear the volume go down as I do it, whats the difference? Or if I tap the air in a specific way, get an audible tap noise, and know I've completed a preset action (index finger tap = set timer for 5 minutes) its the exact same thing. How is sound feedback not as good?…

Sound is OK for a feedback of success. What we also need is visible affordances -- signals of what can be done, when, where, and how. Also, what I hate the most with these gestures is fearing that I'll get it close but not quite, and something else (or nothing) will happen. With a button, you can feel it and immediately make micro-adjustments while pressing to ensure success. This can possibly be done with sound, but…

Your comment reminds of “Design for everyday things” book. He talks about Affordances and Signals.

I agree with you, sound can be ok as a signal that something has happened. It is fine with some users, but annoys others (beeps when a camera auto focuses, always a split opinion. Some people like it and some don’t).

Re: Soli

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Agreed. If I'm so close to a phone, why would I swipe in the air? I also believe that making those Soli actions requires more muscle energy compared to tapping the screen with one finger.

> If I'm so close to a phone, why would I swipe in the air? Because you don't want to extract it from your backpack/purst first? Or you are lying in the dark avoiding turning the backlight on but you also badly want to skip that terrible song you hate... edit: or you're presenting and using your phone on the podium as a remote without breaking eye contact/physically fiddling with the phone/laptop.

Or to keep more smudges off your phone and to not get as many germs on it throughout the day.

These are minor, but not negligible. My phone gets very smudged up throughout the day.

Re: Soli

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> Private > Soli is not a camera and doesn’t capture any visual images. This is a privacy misconception that really needs to die (something also discussed in the W3C ambient light sensor thread recently on HN frontpage). Sensing involves privacy implications. By. Definition.

"visual images" sounds like weasel wording

"A weasel word, or anonymous authority, is an informal term for words and phrases aimed at creating an impression that something specific and meaningful has been said, when in fact only a vague or ambiguous claim has been communicated."

Re: Soli

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>Motion Sense will be available in select countries.

Just...why? What is the point of region locking this? It's only hardware, isn't it?

Re: Soli

#135

I recently showed some videos of Soli in the HCI class I teach. Students immediately hit upon the two major issues I wanted to discuss (I was pretty proud!). The first is learnability. A big problem with gestures is that there is no clear affordance as to what kinds of gestures you can do, or any clear feedback. For feedback, one could couple Soli's input with a visual display, but at that point, it's not clear if th…

Seems like being able to detect eye attention would solve the midas problem -- if you aren't looking at it, it doesn't do anything?

That would be great, but can radar really tell what you are looking at? I suppose could combine it with a camera but that sounds less than ideal in terms of energy use.

(I know very little about any of this)

Re: Soli

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This is a beautiful piece of tech for any ad company looking to collect reaction information to ads (like google): * It works at low power. Turning on the front camera and processing the visual data generated needs large amounts of power. * It can't be blocked as easily as a front facing camera. * People are less aware that they are being surveilled, which makes them less motivated to block it. * Yes, it's not captur…

Ugh. I remember when Black Mirror was viewed as creepy and dystopian... See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits

Black mirror is creepy and dystopian. What's changing is that it becomes less and less speculative over time.

Re: Soli

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Not sure what to think about it. Seems awesome at first glance but then the examples are skipping songs and hand waving pokemons. Feels a lot like a solution looking for a problem.

Agreed. If I'm so close to a phone, why would I swipe in the air? I also believe that making those Soli actions requires more muscle energy compared to tapping the screen with one finger.

"Requires more muscle energy" seems like such a weird metric to base design decisions around but if we start the phone in similar states for both, ie laying on a table, I have a hard time believing they're going to be that different.

Re: Soli

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Agreed. If I'm so close to a phone, why would I swipe in the air? I also believe that making those Soli actions requires more muscle energy compared to tapping the screen with one finger.

> If I'm so close to a phone, why would I swipe in the air? Because you don't want to extract it from your backpack/purst first? Or you are lying in the dark avoiding turning the backlight on but you also badly want to skip that terrible song you hate... edit: or you're presenting and using your phone on the podium as a remote without breaking eye contact/physically fiddling with the phone/laptop.

I don't think it will work with your phone in your pocket or backpack.. and typically your headphones have controls for volume, skip, back, play/pause, so not really compelling on that front. For presentations a small remote control is superior in every way. The only use case I can see is cooking, and there are probably better solutions (e.g. better UI design).

Re: Soli

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Those growing up with Remote Controls of the kind: https://i.imgur.com/AIqz63k.jpg After a few days, the user develops a muscle memory of sorts. User doesn't even have to look at the controller and all actions (and feedback) are executed through the tactile interface. From cockpits to nuclear power plants to home tv remote control, there is absolutely nothing that replaces physical buttons, encoders, sliders and togg…

That tv remote in the picture you linked is awful. Very little tactile differentiation to let you feel your way around, and way too many buttons.

I remember when the TiVo came out, that remote was a game-changer:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Tivo-Remote-Control-/26439...

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