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Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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Re: Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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I'm an American expat in Switzerland working as an independent software developer and startup founder. I can agree with a lot of the points listed in the article, but they apply universally to almost all jobs (not just to software developers). I would raise a few points it doesn't mention: - Negatively, it is much harder to find meetups close to you that apply to you. Unless you're based in Zürich (the tech hub of th…

I'm based in Zurich, also happy to connect.

Re: Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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Go to Spain, same salary, free healthcare, better quality of life, better weather, no crunch culture, better social life (good luck making new friends on Switzerland), less taxes and the last nobel prize of literature was inspired meanwhile lived here like many others.

> Go to Spain, same salary The difference is that in Switzerland you get paid that salary every month, not over the full year. (I’m exaggerating, but not that much.) Edit: by the way, the “less taxes” remark is also quite funny.

You're totally exaggerating, been living in Spain for the past 10 years and previously worked in Switzerland, I often get job offers from Swiss companies and the difference is minimal.

Re: Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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Go to Spain, same salary, free healthcare, better quality of life, better weather, no crunch culture, better social life (good luck making new friends on Switzerland), less taxes and the last nobel prize of literature was inspired meanwhile lived here like many others.

> Same salary? That's funny! I lived in Spain before moving to Switzerland. Regarding "free healthcare" and "better weather, no crunch culture, better social life" yeah, I agree on that!

Re: Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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I'm an American expat in Switzerland working as an independent software developer and startup founder. I can agree with a lot of the points listed in the article, but they apply universally to almost all jobs (not just to software developers). I would raise a few points it doesn't mention: - Negatively, it is much harder to find meetups close to you that apply to you. Unless you're based in Zürich (the tech hub of th…

I'm in Zurich, moved recently from South Africa - also in the startup space, currently working remotely, also from home. Would love to grab a coffee sometime if you're keen - your website in your profile doesn't resolve - does the email work?

Just fixed up the domain, thanks for reminding me. :)

Yes the email works: hello lukeseelenbinder com. Let's definitely meet up! I'm in St. Gallen, so not far at all.

Re: Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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post #131
post #3

I'm an American expat in Switzerland working as an independent software developer and startup founder. I can agree with a lot of the points listed in the article, but they apply universally to almost all jobs (not just to software developers). I would raise a few points it doesn't mention: - Negatively, it is much harder to find meetups close to you that apply to you. Unless you're based in Zürich (the tech hub of th…

I'm based in Zurich, also happy to connect.

Let's! My email is in my profile.

Re: Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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I'm an American expat in Switzerland working as an independent software developer and startup founder. I can agree with a lot of the points listed in the article, but they apply universally to almost all jobs (not just to software developers). I would raise a few points it doesn't mention: - Negatively, it is much harder to find meetups close to you that apply to you. Unless you're based in Zürich (the tech hub of th…

How was the process of moving from the US to Switzerland? I'm a senior engineer, and I'm open to moving there to work, but I don't have the slightest idea of how I would go about finding places to interview or find a job. How did you find yours? Are there recruiters to bring in out-of-country talent? I feel like that would be a massive hurdle, considering you would need a visa. Any advice on finding a job? Edit: I'm…

I'm an American living and working in Zurich for Google. Frankly - without Google handling every part of the process for me it would have been extremely difficult to get the visa.

The best route you have into a job here as an American (or other non-schengen area resident) is to find a company already doing business here, get hired, and then transfer here.

But once here... it is very nice

Re: Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers

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Bullshit alert They start with: "Maybe it is because of the outrageous rents eating over 30% of the salary and houses you cannot afford unless you joined Facebook or Google at the right time? " Regarding the SV. Then, this is what they (proudly) say about Switzerland: 1) "In Zurich, you can rent a whole flat (50+ square meters) for something between 2500-4000 CHF " 2) "In Switzerland a Software Developer can easily e…

Also, a lot of the "pros" of living in Switzerland are basically the same as in the US. In any other low-key metropolis (Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, Austin, Phoenix, Des Moines, whatever) a software developer with 5 years of experience can earn $130k and buy houses for $250k - $350k. If you're single, you can get luxury 1 BD apartments for $1500 in happening parts of town. Plus, in the enterprise world it's very easy t…

You obviously never lived in Switzerland. Can't explain all the US-CH differences in few words, but some benefits: better healthcare, better social system, much much safer, actually working public school system, great clean nature on your doorstep, I can be in 2 minutes of drive in beautiful France and 1 hour drive in Italy and rest of Europe is just around the corner. Very health and sport-oriented mentality. Super strong middle class which creates much healthier long term society. Much better (and healthier!) food, population that has most voting power in the world and actually votes sanely. You can have all the guns you can have in US too :) And so on and on and on...

Oh, and your tax dollars don't support wars making the world a significantly worse place with all the rest of evil attached, if you care about such things.

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