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Especially since that is what just happened to another Chinese company with Western suppliers.
Its not a moral problem.
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But will China be able to make the next leap on their own? It's one thing to copy but another to come up with the design on the first place.
There's a lot to be said for letting someone else spend billions perfecting a design and then just copying it. If you can do it quickly and make improvements you'll maintain second place very cheaply, which let's you spend the rest of your resources on more useful things.
Ah yes, the Comac C919, 8 years late and counting, and brought to you by the company whose sole previous model still has trouble landing on wet runways: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_ARJ21
China managed to quite quickly absorb the technology transfer from Alstom/Siemens to build high-speed trains. Now their trains are better than anyone else's and they have more high-speed rails than any other country. They even managed to beat competitors and export their trains to Turkey and Argentina... I have no doubt their airplane will ultimately be successful.
Do you have source for that?
> They even managed to beat competitors and export their trains to Turkey and Argentina..
This does not necessary mean their trains are better than anyone's else.
Unfortunately all Chinese citizens must comply under Chinese law with spying requests whenever their intelligence agencies come asking. That makes every Chinese citizen in your company a potential spy. This is shitty on so many levels, and what is the appropriate response? Should Chinese citizens have lower access in US companies? At universities? Etc. That would be a terrible outcome. We do need some kind of clear a…
The same can be said for hiring Australians dealing with software. Australia has a law that forces its citizens to comply with requests by the government to hide backdoors in code. As a consequence, anything contributed to important project by any Australian citizen is a potential risk. If your project is important enough, Australian contributions should not be accepted.
Laws like this make it incredibly risky to hire people from certain nationalities in big companies or for secret projects. Governments are willing to sacrifice the economic value of their citizens for the ability to hack and spy on anyone they like and other countries should respond appropriately. If you show that you're willing to use your citizens to take aggressive action, be prepared to have your citizens refused elsewhere.
With everyone hacking each other, maybe countries should just openly share IP and avoid the expense/troubles of cyber espionage. The end result is the same.
40% of US company export revenues come from IP. Not gonna happen. https://www.uschamber.com/series/above-the-fold/the-state-am...
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> Racial profiling is just a slur for pattern recognition ...?! Did you really write that?! Do you really believe that? WTF, man! Do you realize how that would sound in any other context? A few steps down this line and you'd use machine learning concepts to justify natzy ideas or stuff like that.
Machine learning will find these patterns all on their own. They're not worried about being ostracized for seeing the world for how it is.
(1) pick a set of goals we deem worthy
(2) use machine learning to find patterns of actions that push things towards our goals - that's why I think we should move as much as possible in reinforcement learning, and figure out ways to use RL for data-science too, both supervised learning and time-independent unsupervised learning are really dangerous and biasing tools, and I think they're sort of dead ends on the road to true-AGI
There's no such thing as "seeing the world for how it is". Looking for patterns in data using a tool/machine trained on data (that will be inherently biasedly selected) will just lead you to find the patterns that confirm your f up world view, out of the infinity of patterns that there always are in everything...
We need to figure out how to manipulate the world in order to shape it into the patterns that we'd enjoy more.
There's a sort of "Chinese perspective" in applied machine learning nowadays (which is probably not originating in China, but being associated with "ML empowered surveillance and social scoring" is easier labeled like this) that I think is very wrong and extremely dangerous... we should grow up out of it quickly, because later on properly purging it from our cultures will be a violent endeavor... Heck, I even hope we as species get a Mars base up as a backup if this conflict of world views goes hot because there's a high chance it will be very very hot, like in nuclear hot...
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> I imagine the ones that are outspoken against the CCP have a much harder time going abroad in the first place. Resistance against the CCP is a very tiny minority since there is a heavy brainwashing about how great everything CCP does since kids go to school at a young age - and they never get any other version of reality.
Disclaimer: I'm french and I'm living in China since my wife is Chinese. It's not only about brainwashing. 40 years ago 85% of the chinese population was below the poverty line. Today it's between 10% and 15%. Under the party governance, almost everyone saw their life standards go up substantially. A lot of the people studying abroad saw their family starting from the bottom and they can now afford to study in wester…
How do they rationalise that HK had a far higher standard of living all along, by doing exactly the opposite of what the CCP said?
Unfortunately all Chinese citizens must comply under Chinese law with spying requests whenever their intelligence agencies come asking. That makes every Chinese citizen in your company a potential spy. This is shitty on so many levels, and what is the appropriate response? Should Chinese citizens have lower access in US companies? At universities? Etc. That would be a terrible outcome. We do need some kind of clear a…
I haven't heard about any Chinese law that forces its citizens to comply with spying. But, if such a law exists, hiring Chinese nationals (or people who visit China often, for example to visit family) are a risk to secret high-tech projects. The same can be said for hiring Australians dealing with software. Australia has a law that forces its citizens to comply with requests by the government to hide backdoors in cod…
They don't need a specific law, quite a few might do it because of patriotism (just because he is is living in USA for 4 years, he's still connected to the motherland.) Simply one that says "all national are required to answer questions from ..." then they make your life miserable until you do so. Imagine having the entire local and state of government on your back: lawn too dirty, you spit on the sidewalk, taxes...not just you, your entire extended family.
In other words, if China and Russia want to make their citizens talk, you will. Or 99% will.
Unfortunately all Chinese citizens must comply under Chinese law with spying requests whenever their intelligence agencies come asking. That makes every Chinese citizen in your company a potential spy. This is shitty on so many levels, and what is the appropriate response? Should Chinese citizens have lower access in US companies? At universities? Etc. That would be a terrible outcome. We do need some kind of clear a…
Chinese citizen here but not a legal expert. I am not aware of any Chinese law requiring compliance with intelligence agencies' request. Can you please give a source?
Unfortunately all Chinese citizens must comply under Chinese law with spying requests whenever their intelligence agencies come asking. That makes every Chinese citizen in your company a potential spy. This is shitty on so many levels, and what is the appropriate response? Should Chinese citizens have lower access in US companies? At universities? Etc. That would be a terrible outcome. We do need some kind of clear a…
Chinese citizen here but not a legal expert. I am not aware of any Chinese law requiring compliance with intelligence agencies' request. Can you please give a source?
Although there is debate regarding the circumstances under which assistance can be compelled, it appears quite broad:
The Intelligence Law, by contrast, repeatedly obliges individuals, organizations, and institutions to assist Public Security and State Security officials in carrying out a wide array of “intelligence” work. Article Seven stipulates that “any organization or citizen shall support, assist, and cooperate with state intelligence work according to law.” Article 14, in turn, grants intelligence agencies authority to insist on this support: “state intelligence work organs, when legally carrying forth intelligence work, may demand that concerned organs, organizations, or citizens provide needed support, assistance, and cooperation.” Organizations and citizens must also protect the secrecy of “any state intelligence work secrets of which they are aware.”
https://www.lawfareblog.com/beijings-new-national-intelligen...