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Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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To be honest, I was hoping this would have something to do with first party supply for X Windows on Windows, so that I could kick VcXsrv to the curb.

i use a uwp app called x410. havent used it a ton but works pretty well for me. Also why would that ever happen...

It probably wouldn't, but then a few years ago I would never have guessed we'd be getting things like WSL, a real terminal, and native SSH.

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There have been USB powered portable monitors for years that would let you get a dual screen experience. With iOS 13, there is built in support for using an iPad ($329 10.2inch screen) as a second display.

Really ? So lugging a USB monitor vs having on a device. Which one would most users prefer ? Don't say "oh the external can be of higher res". Portability is a big win.

How much lighter is a second screen attach to the device than an iPad - which weighs 1.07 pounds or the iPad Mini that weighs 2/3s of a pound?

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There have been USB powered portable monitors for years that would let you get a dual screen experience. With iOS 13, there is built in support for using an iPad ($329 10.2inch screen) as a second display.

That's exactly what I've been doing. But I value portability - I'm a (hobby) photographer as well and my backpack includes 2 lenses and a Nikon D850 (combined > 10lbs!) + my MBP 2015 + My usb-C powered second screen. I travel a lot with this full backpack and if I can reduce that second screen, I'd jump on that!

An iPad Mini is 0.66 pounds a regular iPad is 1 pound.

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For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

Honestly, I'm actually looking forward to VR headset just for this. If I can get rid of my multi-monitors with just 1 headset then not only will it be more portable but also give me more real estate.

Of course, the compromise in picture quality is still a deal breaker for me.

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For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

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Exactly; they got that out of their system with Windows RT. (And apparently the upcoming Windows 10 for ARM will ship with Win32 support via emulation.)

Windows 10 on ARM has been shipping for over a year, and it has an x86 (but not x86-64) emulator. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/

Oops, thanks— clearly I’ve not been following things too closely!

(I think I wrongly assumed it wasn’t out yet since I hadn’t heard of a new ARM-based Surface release.)

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It's interesting to see Apple doing the opposite these days. In the consumer facing keynote the meticulously separate Watch, iPhone, iPad, Mac, and TV with the capabilities and apps that run on each. Then they have their dev keynote where they explain how these apps are really all based on shared technology and can all be made using the same new frameworks and then released to each app store for users.

Apple's strategy is great for consumers, IT departments, and (I assume) developers in that way. I can use the same device management tools to control a corporate Macbook, Apple TV, or iPad. The differences in their product line (iPad vs iPad Pro, Macbook vs Macbook Pro, etc) all have a common denominator where you're rarely having one of those conversations where someone realizes "Oh I asked for X but procurement dep…

im already on top of this new one! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21137596

ive given apple credit for the new iphone naming scheme, but the iphone x, xs, xr, x max, xs max naming conventions absolutely appear designed to confuse. i dont think air, nothing, pro are all that great either, with no suffix being the standard lowest end of the three. +, pro, max, etc all get used interchangeablyish. sometimes its Apple, sometimes its i (legal probably drove this dichotomy.)

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

Hmm, at that point might as well just remove the keyboard and use an external when you really need one.

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For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

I don't understand how anyone could think dual screen is a gimmick that had a DS. There were a lot of games that put those two screens to good use. I am serious.

It could have done the same with 1 larger screen. But the DS is a foldable device. It's not a gimmick, it's part of the operation of the device. I use dual screens at work, because they are smaller lower resolution screens. At home I have 1 huge high resolution screen. Not having a physical separation is amazing.
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