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Re: Facebook Horizon

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My colleagues were excited by the prospect of Facebook's new Dating feature. I couldnt think of any 'layman' reasons not to use it.. they weren't too concerned with their privacy nor did they care if others had their data, because they "did normal stuff and had nothing to hide"..

How do you guys bring the point around to average people who don't care about privacy?

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Is it just me or is their intro video disturbing? A world where your significant other is next to you but deep in their own virtual world? Hasn't Facebook done enough to disconnect people from the real world? Given the lengths Facebook has gone through to keep users engaged and addicted to their platform, what's stopping them from doing the same with Horizon?

Showing VR users awkwardly ignoring friends who are right next to them does run face-first into a talking point I've heard repeatedly from people who reject VR out of hand. While, I agree with you 100% that it was a poor choice of theme for the video, I've never been impressed with the talking point. It has always been presented to me as if they were arguing that the telephone was an isolating, anti-social device. "I…

In my opinion it's not the supposedly ignoring friends part. It's the fact that replacing then non virtual world with a virtual one means that you are giving your life entirely to a commercial entity. You basically lose all freedoms humanity achieved for the individual. Because this new space is not public, it's entirely owned. If it would be opt in and an individual choice than I wouldn't care much. But these things, if they are engaging enough will tend to attract a critical mass of people that might make the old non virtual space obselet in many ways. This will effect me weather I like it or not.

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A comparison to Rec Room or VRChat would make much more sense and be way more fitting to support your argument.

That Facebook Horizon video is exactly how Linden Lab marketed Second Life.

I really enjoyed SL for a few years. At one point in some role play world that involved hunting or being hunted with bow and arrow or melee weapons. I had played plenty of other purpose build FPS but enjoyed that SL game more despite the crap graphics, laggy scripts, weapons, hacks etc. It felt more visceral.

I never spent a cent inside of an FPS but probably spent a few thousand dollars in SL.

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Sansar , High fidelity , vrchat ... they all struggle to get traction (and mostly fail) - why does facebook think they can do better

I guess one reason might be that they have a pre-existing social network to draw from, so much easier to coordinate social VR with friends. Not saying that is sufficient, but it definitely helps compared with a startup that has to rely more on having strangers interact or, if meeting with friends, is likely to be higher friction that FB can offer.

sansar has second life, probably the biggest congregation of virtual world users

Re: Facebook Horizon

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I wonder whether those legless avatars fall into the "uncanny valley": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

It definitely does. A better approach would be, gradient fade down towards torso. This feels wrong as a sudden cut below waist line.

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Maybe it is just me getting old but when I was watching that part when she was talking about "getting out there, trying new things, making your mark", something really deep in me was screaming NOOOO!, this is not right :-/ I was always into tech but this video makes me want to throw all my devices away, move to some old house in abandoned Spanish village and grow my own tomatoes. And the disturbing part is that I am…

I don't get this type of visceral reaction personally, even though I wouldn't use this type of app, but I understand why some older people would never touch it. I like to keep up with new tech and I was looking at the viral Houseparty [1] and Airtime [1] apps the other day. While I'd never do anything like that with my friends, when I checked the reviews it was mostly 12yr kids (some say their age in the review for s…

Me, an old fart, looks at Houseparty/Airtime: That's nice! I could see myself doing that with friends. I haven't really thought of how important It's to see peoples faces. The kids are alright!

Me looks at a VR world run by facebook: Screeches and sees the worst imaginable dystopian future marching towards me.

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