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Re: Facebook Dating

#131

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Nonsense. Just don't use Facebook. Send email or use iMessage/Signal whatevs. If you are "left out" -- then those people probably cared about your involvement only superficially. As far as people you want to date -- how weird would it be to actually talk to the person? You'd stand out from the crowd specifically because you aren't like everybody else. Grow a spine.

Not using Facebook is fine for direct conversations. It really isn't an option in larger groups. ---- Here's a great example. I go on a canoe weekend with a bunch of old friend each year. Some years it has an upwards of 100 people attending. I know about 10 to 20 people, including the hosts, very well. The rest are either acquaintances, second connections, or friends/family of the hosts. Everything gets done via a Fa…

I don't use Facebook. When I want to hang out with friends, I call or text them on my mobile phone. If I want to invite people to an event, I call or text them on my mobile phone. Or if we're hanging out I'll say something like "we should go to [event] next week!"

I haven't used Facebook for years and it has not obstructed my social life in any way.

Re: Facebook Dating

#132
This has been live in Canada for some time in a "beta" incarnation, and from a purely product standpoint it is terrible.

The UI is just bad. You cannot browse profiles, you must say "yes" or "no" and the decision is final. If you scroll down to read a profile more, when you pass, it leaves you in the same scroll spot in the next profile. This is User Interface 101 level stuff. The list of problems goes on from there.

Everything about it says "throwaway add-on" that they haven't spent any real time on optimizing.

When originally announced, Match stock dropped 25% on the news, only to bounce back. I don't see this product really making a big dent in the Match bottom line.

Re: Facebook Dating

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How old is old? I'm 28 and would not use this because I don't trust Facebook. My little brother is 16 and I know he won't use this because no one he knows uses Facebook. I don't even think he has an account. They're all on Snapchat and IG. I was talking to him about this last week. They all think of Facebook as for a different generation. As stale. I feel similarly and know a lot of my circle does too. Except for eve…

and still fb grows and grows and grows, be it instagram, whatsup or the blue app, facebook doesn't seem affected by opinions of hacker news people. in many countries it is basically the internet wether you like it or not.

My comment was specifically about Facebook.com and acknowledged that younger users are moving to instagram. I didn't say younger people are leaving all Facebook-owned subsidiaries.

Similarly, I referenced my circle of friends—who are not hacker news people—as not using Facebook either.

Re: Facebook Dating

#134

So, I'd use this, as someone who has trouble getting matches on dating apps usually. Facebook already has the largest issue for dating apps solved: the network chicken-and-egg problem. Dating apps are non-exclusive, I have 3 installed on my phone and using an additional one isn't a big deal. If they are able to provide a differentiated feature set from other apps because they can better leverage FB interest data, I d…

Also, what people on HN seem to be missing is that with dating, I don't care where I get my "leads" from. I can be using every single dating app at once, so what do I care about clicking "enable dating" on Facebook?

Facebook gave me a notification to try FB Dating the other week. I clicked it, chose my pics, and was on the meat market immediately, receiving phone notifications like "Karen liked you" just like any other dating app. I click it, view their profile, and start messaging them. Being linked to Facebook profiles, I also have more trust in the other party which is how Tinder started out.

HN rants so consistently about dating apps that I think it's mostly just ranting about dating in general.

Facebook is ubiquitous in Mexico where I live. And when I go back to the States and meet people 20-35 downtown, I have yet to find people who aren't on Facebook. I think HNers vastly overestimate the exodus from Facebook, if there is one, just because we like to cover FB's privacy issues here on HN.

Re: Facebook Dating

#135
post #100

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How old is old? I'm 28 and would not use this because I don't trust Facebook. My little brother is 16 and I know he won't use this because no one he knows uses Facebook. I don't even think he has an account. They're all on Snapchat and IG. I was talking to him about this last week. They all think of Facebook as for a different generation. As stale. I feel similarly and know a lot of my circle does too. Except for eve…

I think in a marketers mind, you are from the outbound Millenial generation rather than the current 'young' Generation Z (or Zoomers as they're called in the Wojak meme world).

Which is why I shared the opinions and behaviours of my brother, who is 16. He's that next generation.

Re: Facebook Dating

#136
Whereas tinder, instagram, and others value add is from their content, the value of Facebook (the platform) has always been the network.

Facebook as a company has always been chasing after content. This is because content has a direct and clear monetization strategy whereas helping people make use of their network is difficult to make money from. Well, it shows - $40bn in revenue, 80% of it in ads.

Helping people to use their network effectively is basically charity work to Facebook. How are you going to at-scale monetize that out? The answer: you don't.

But with some irony, after chasing content for over a decade, I think Facebook is now in a position to do some charity work. Similar to Google, who saturated their ad team's return on value and has it's employees working on moonshots all day, Facebook can now afford to sit on their content engines and attack problem spaces that are harder to monetize and solve but provide more meaningful value.

Long story short, I think it's the right time for Facebook's hayday to sneak up on us because it can quietly focus on adding real value via our networks without chasing after money from them.

I really like the idea of Facebook Dating, because 1) it already has the network and doesn't need to build it, and 2) it doesn't need to make money.

Most dating apps suffer under the pressure to make money and grow. For a dating app to grow it has to focus on building cohesive user bases that find value in each other and eventually creates its own ecosystems that damages the experience for others (i.e. hookup culture). While Facebook Dating might still have some of that, I could see it ending up as a more serious dating platform because it doesn't need to focus on user growth.

How would you monetize Marketplace? Facebook Dating? The answer is: you don't care that much, throw some ads on it and let it cover costs. 7-8 years ago when people were searching for Facebook's killer money printing machine, these projects would have a lot of pressure to make a lot of money. Nowadays, sheltered by the content engine that Facebook has amassed, these projects can focus on providing immediate and strong value through Facebook's core benefit (it's network) and hold off on how to make money for a couple of years.

Sounds familiar? It sounds a lot like Gmail.

Re: Facebook Dating

#137

Reminds me of this dialog from the Social Network movie: Relationship Status, Interested In. This is what drives life at college. Are you having sex or aren’t you. It’s why people take certain classes, and sit where they sit, and do what they do, and at its, um, center, you know, that’s what the Facebook is gonna be about. People are gonna log on because after all the cake and watermelon there’s a chance they’re actu…

That movie, like this sentiment about facebook, is now 9 years old.

Re: Facebook Dating

#138
If I look at who I know that is still using fb it is almost exclusively older people. I'm 33 and deleted my fb account, almost every person I know younger than me either did the same or was never on in the first place.

I see this being huge for older adults who are divorced or widowed, those are the people still using fb and I think would be happy to use this service.

Re: Facebook Dating

#139

What could possibly go wrong??

Wild no one is addressing the floodgate of harassment this is opening. At least when one is harassed on another app they can just close it or delete your account and the harasser has little recourse.

Given their history, FB will likely just let this mess fester

Re: Facebook Dating

#140

Finally, all the tracking they've done on their users over many years could yield the best matching algorithm :|

Dating sucks, but I'm still more uncomfortable with the idea of somebody's initial meeting being reduced to matching algorithms.

In my opinion, it might actually prove to be better than letting people decide based on super superficial attributes on dating profiles. Online dating completely sucks, guys have no choice, girls have too many bad choices.
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