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Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by htor »

aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #58
htor wrote: post #2

grow human organs inside rats and? how does that work? i don't understand. meanwhile we are entering the sixt mass extinction event caused by a massive climate change. what good is this technology when you have failing crops, extreme weather, no electricity and mass immigration at your doorstep?

The current mass extinction event we're currently in has little to do with climate change, but a lot more to do with habitat destruction from industrial activities, pollution, deforestation, etc.

yes, i forgot to add "anthropogenic" to climate change. ie – this climate change is the direct result of human activity

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by madez »

sdinsn wrote: post #129
madez wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I worry about allowing Japan It's not up to you.

I'm not sure why you got downvoted and flagged. You are absolutely right; what Japan wants to do in their own country is their own decision.

The votes also fluctuated a bit before settling. It's unclear to me why it got flagged. To me, my comment is an obvious and factual correction. Maybe it was flagged because I corrected someone tersely who has been downvoted a lot already. But then, other short corrections in these situations don't get flagged. Maybe there is a special sensitivity towards the topic of US-American exceptionalism and neo-imperialism. Who can flag? Only Dang?

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by [deleted] »

munificent wrote: post #59
toomuchtodo wrote: post #37

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Perhaps even further than that! It may make humanity realize that, just as oil is too valuable to burn, pigs are too valuable to use for bacon instead of life saving medical treatments.

Well, if you have to slaughter the pig to remove its human pancreas for transplant anyway , the ethical thing to do is extract as much value as you can by also using its delicious, delicious meat. (Which hopefully does not contain too many migrated human cells.)

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Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by sebringj »

How does the human part affect cognition? A stem cell for example is before it "decides" to be a specific cell right? If that is the case in terms of embryo development, then how do they coax only specific cells in embryos to only express themselves in parts of the body excluding the brain. Complicated but I really am not understanding some basic principles here.

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by sdinsn »

madez wrote: post #132
sdinsn wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you got downvoted and flagged. You are absolutely right; what Japan wants to do in their own country is their own decision.

The votes also fluctuated a bit before settling. It's unclear to me why it got flagged. To me, my comment is an obvious and factual correction. Maybe it was flagged because I corrected someone tersely who has been downvoted a lot already. But then, other short corrections in these situations don't get flagged. Maybe there is a special sensitivity towards the topic of US-American exceptionalism and neo-imperialism. Wh…

Anyone can flag

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by madez »

sdinsn wrote: post #135
madez wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The votes also fluctuated a bit before settling. It's unclear to me why it got flagged. To me, my comment is an obvious and factual correction. Maybe it was flagged because I corrected someone tersely who has been downvoted a lot already. But then, other short corrections in these situations don't get flagged. Maybe there is a special sensitivity towards the topic of US-American exceptionalism and neo-imperialism. Wh…

Anyone can flag

How?

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by Communitivity »

fjcp wrote: post #63

When I heard Alex Jones on Joe Rogan saying that there was human-animal experiments being made I thought he was exaggerating. In my opinion this kind of research crosses some ethical lines that shouldn't be crossed. If one considers an embryo as an independent life, what species the embryo belongs to? Wouldn't be the ones in this experiment half humans with human rights? After all, the scientist doesn't know all, and…

I saw you had been downvoted and I upvoted you, despite disagreeing very strongly with your opinion, because you stated your opinion without vitriol and while I might disagree I'll still fight for your right to say it as long you do so in a way that isn't hurtful.

I think the line of inquiry into replacement organs can be researched ethically but the how of the research may cross ethical lines if not done carefully. Given diseases we have, I think we need to do the research and find an ethical way to make this kind of organ production happen, if we want to extend human lifespan.

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by danbolt »

checktheorder wrote: post #47
sampo wrote: post #25

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> We don't still force Germany to have caps on its army. You pacified the German psyche so thoroughly that the Germans do it themselves now.

It wasn't pacification. It was a nation collectively coming to terms with their brutal past and taking to heart the phrase "never again". If "not bombing non-knee-bending nations on a whim" equals "pacified" in your mind, then I hope you never hold a position of power in any government.

I'd imagine Japan's attitudes have changed the same, as well.

Re: Japan approves first human-animal embryo experiments

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Post by [deleted] »

madez wrote: post #132
sdinsn wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you got downvoted and flagged. You are absolutely right; what Japan wants to do in their own country is their own decision.

The votes also fluctuated a bit before settling. It's unclear to me why it got flagged. To me, my comment is an obvious and factual correction. Maybe it was flagged because I corrected someone tersely who has been downvoted a lot already. But then, other short corrections in these situations don't get flagged. Maybe there is a special sensitivity towards the topic of US-American exceptionalism and neo-imperialism. Wh…

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