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America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #114

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It's relatively recently that slavery was outlawed. Recency has little to do with it.

I’m just surprised to see the assertion in print. I’m not that old, and I don’t think you would’ve seen it stated so matter of factly when I was a kid.

FWIW, I read that passage as being presented somewhat ironically.

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #128

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Singapore solved this problem, and we should probably follow their example > Singapore's top diplomat in the UK, Michael Teo, defended Singapore's harsh drug laws by pointing to the country's lower rates for drug use. "8.2% of the UK population are cannabis abusers; in Singapore, it is 0.005%. For ecstasy, the figures are 1.8% for the UK and 0.003% for Singapore; and for opiates—such as heroin, opium, and morphine -…

Solved by extremely harsh penalties including execution. Not exactly aligned with Western countries of human rights.

If you find a country with fewer needles on the streets and fewer people using drugs, we are happy to listen to their policies and how they accomplished it

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #128

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Solved by extremely harsh penalties including execution. Not exactly aligned with Western countries of human rights.

If you find a country with fewer needles on the streets and fewer people using drugs, we are happy to listen to their policies and how they accomplished it

Singapore is tiny, not much more than a city-state. Rates of drug use is also a matter of honest reporting.

And wow are you really advocating execution of people with addiction and mental health issues that use drugs?

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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And eliminate US style separate zoning. European mixed use zoning is much more "social" allowing shorter commutes to work and shorter trips to retail.

I prefer to call it "respecting people's property rights", "mixed use" and "European style zoning" are too vague leave way too much room for curtailment of freedom which when they run their course bring us basically back to the status quo.

Every bylaw and city planning initiative "curtails freedom" for the sake of engineering a better, more efficient community and better quality of life. The issue with (in particular) single family residential zoning isn't that it limits what land owners can do with the land - in the city, this is unavoidable and very much desirable. It's that it artificially incentivizes inefficient, unhealthy and socially disconnected car-centric suburbia.

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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Well, yes. Most of the developed countries have birth rates below replacement rate.[1]

Over the next century, the poor countries and the ones that keep women home and pregnant win. Within countries, the groups that keep women home and pregnant win.

[1] http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/total-fertility-r...

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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I look at it a little differently. The urban cores in the USA are actively hostile places for anyone to be. You step outside your door...into an empty hallway of doors. You take an elevator or stairs down to a place with a few mailboxes, then step outside. Outside, you have a narrow strip of concrete, possibly with a few trees, that you are allowed to inhabit. Beyond it is as asphalt with two ton steel contraptions w…

You don't need "low rise cohousing communities" to have families in cities. Japanese cities are extremely dense, yet people raise families there just fine. On my trip to Japan, I was really struck by how many children I saw in the middles of cities (moreso in some districts than others, of course), whereas I never see children in downtown American cities. Of course, Japanese cities don't have enormous parking lots, e…

Because they have a high trust, homogenous culture. How many people feel comfortable taking children on public transportation or allowing to roam the middle of cities?

Culture matters, and quite frankly Japanese culture is different.

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post #88

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| Parks exist in most urban areas and are perfect for kids to play in. Minus the used needles and other debris that litter many of them. It’s a sad state that that’s the best place people with drug problems can go, but it seems they don’t have anywhere else to go. It’s just not where I want to bring my kid to hangout.

Singapore solved this problem, and we should probably follow their example > Singapore's top diplomat in the UK, Michael Teo, defended Singapore's harsh drug laws by pointing to the country's lower rates for drug use. "8.2% of the UK population are cannabis abusers; in Singapore, it is 0.005%. For ecstasy, the figures are 1.8% for the UK and 0.003% for Singapore; and for opiates—such as heroin, opium, and morphine -…

So did Portugal [0], except they didn't resort to draconian rule-of-law policies and instead took a more compassionate approach.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radic...

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #128

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Solved by extremely harsh penalties including execution. Not exactly aligned with Western countries of human rights.

If you find a country with fewer needles on the streets and fewer people using drugs, we are happy to listen to their policies and how they accomplished it

You have a shockingly narrow understanding of addiction

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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Yeah seriously. We're Catholic (the crazy kind who eschew birth control and have tons of babies). We live in the SF area and are moving to Portland and plan on buying in the city. We have lots of friends in SF who have large enough families (3 - 8 kids). These are not super wealthy people. Well, I mean, they save their money and spend wisely so they have enough. They are not hotshot doctors, lawyers, or software engi…

Not sure subjugating women to be home makers is going to win a lot support for your point. The problem is that there is no support in the U.S. for working couples who choose to move away from family for economic opportunity.

Can you explain how OP‘s wife is subjugated? I’m ex Microsoft. My wife is a better programmer than you and me put together. She stays at home with the children voluntarily. I told her if she wanted to switch places, I would stay at home with the children. Is she subjugated? Would I be subjugated if I stayed at home instead?

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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For you, perhaps. But for me and my family, raising children in the densest urban core is a highly enjoyable experience. Imagine never being in traffic again. Having your choice of activities, parkland, and restaurants. Hundreds of friends within a single square mile. That’s what draws many of us to the city over the suburb. But to each their own.

OK, I'll try to imagine it. I'll assume you don't mean living like Trump did, in a personally owned tower with lots of servants including chefs and drivers. Note that I actually do have 12 kids. Imagining... I herd my 12 kids down from my far-too-small apartment. My wife and I go in separate elevator cars so that we can fit. We'll go enjoy a trendy restaurant because we're city people and we do that. We walk along to…

You need to instill more responsibility into your "12 kids". Mewling babes are fine if there are one or two of them, but you're way past that...

Also who on earth ever takes "12 kids" out to eat, in the city or out of it? Do you and your wives go in separate minivans, or do you own a bus?

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