Don't PDFs and Word documents embed fonts, too?
Yes, and if you embed a font that you licensed as a webfont, you've violated the license. https://processtypefoundry.com/help/base/webfont-license-agr...
Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
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Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Font licenses make the difference very, very clear. > The following are allowed by this agreement; you may: > 1b. Use the WOFF, WOFF2, and EOT web font formats provided by Process to style text on your websites via the CSS @font-face rule for an unlimited number of websites whose content is controlled by you. You agree to use reasonable measures to ensure the fonts are available only for the process of styling text o…
They make the difference clear, but they don’t make a lot of sense.
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
#133What's the difference between putting webfonts on your public website vs putting them on your public github? This seems like a distinction that only lawyers would care about, but I'm not a web developer (and I don't know much about webfonts) so maybe there's something I'm missing.
The people who draft these licenses are pretty smart and explain VERY CLEARLY what is and is not allowed. For instance! > The following are allowed by this agreement; you may: > 1b. Use the WOFF, WOFF2, and EOT web font formats provided by Process to style text on your websites via the CSS @font-face rule for an unlimited number of websites whose content is controlled by you. You agree to use reasonable measures to e…
It's not clear. How on earth are you supposed to implement ii)?
I'm not interested in answers which mention the Referer header. There are a myriad of factors which can prevent it being sent with the original request required the style elements on the site.
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are enough fonts. It wouldn't be a great loss for humanity if we didn't get as many new fonts because of decreased profit margins in the font design industry.
There is also enough of almost anything by your logic or lack thereof. Guess everyone should just pack up and go home.
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
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I fully support your point—many times there are free or system fonts that are at least as of high quality. That said I only missed MATTEL on that one. Helv has a few giveaways and refinements but most people don't care—though the differences Arial and other modified Helveticas do have arguably render the type less neutral.
18/20 share a single tell you can't miss if you know about it. MATTEL doesn't -- and, I thought, neither does TOYOTA. How'd you figure TOYOTA? I got MATTEL and TOYOTA both right based on the heuristic "Helvetica apparently has fatter lines", which I learned from the quiz itself.
For TOYOTA, I have the impression that in one option all letters have the same weight, while in the other one the A is a bit bolder than the other letters. I figured the one with all the same weight should be Helvetica, but I was wrong.
Looking at the fatness of the lines feels quite fragile: aren't there versions of Helvetica in all kinds of weights?
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
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They can and do find out. I used to work for a company that got hit up by Monotype for a six figure fine to pay for using one of their fonts. The previous head of design hadn’t bothered to sort tricky things like paying for fonts, mainly, I think, because he knew senior management wouldn’t spring for it. We switched them out for free alternatives and negotiated down the fee, but they still had to part with a good amo…
Companies which depend on IP trolling for their primary revenue always end up being extortionists who drain society without producing further value.
They had us bang to rights for using one of their fonts on a site with over 1bn annual pageviews without a licence.
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
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Even better, what if I have it on github because github pages is my site host?
I don't host w/ github pages, but when I was looking I don't remember there being any restriction on the repo being private. Why does the repo need to be public?
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, and if you embed a font that you licensed as a webfont, you've violated the license. https://processtypefoundry.com/help/base/webfont-license-agr...
My point is, if you have a desktop license (which is fine to use in print) you'll be "redistributing" it in much the same way as a website which uses @font-face and serves you the font files.
The technicalities, as far as the license is concerned, are not really the point. It's not about whether you're physically sending the bits of the font over the wire, but the whole context in which you're doing it.
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
What if the license explicitly forbids you putting it on GitHub? https://processtypefoundry.com/help/base/webfont-license-agr...
if the license explicitly forbids it you better not do it as I noted above. but if the license does not explicitly forbid then I think you have an argument that putting your website code on github is pretty common practice.
That's not very useful, so the license says "you may distribute this font file as part of a website; you must be using this font to style a webpage. Any other kind of distribution at all is still prohibited." There's no "common practice" exception- just because they open up a little window that allows you to distribute the font in a particular manner doesn't mean they've accidentally given you the right to distribute it according to "common practice."
Sharing MP3s on P2P sites is also a common practice, but obviously you don't have a license to do that when you buy a CD.
Re: Github became the web's largest font piracy site (2017)
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The people who draft these licenses are pretty smart and explain VERY CLEARLY what is and is not allowed. For instance! > The following are allowed by this agreement; you may: > 1b. Use the WOFF, WOFF2, and EOT web font formats provided by Process to style text on your websites via the CSS @font-face rule for an unlimited number of websites whose content is controlled by you. You agree to use reasonable measures to e…
>At a minimum, and by way of illustration not limitation, reasonable measures include i) preventing unlicensed third-party access, i.e. hotlinking and, ii) not allowing direct download of the fonts unrelated to the process of styling text for your website. It's not clear. How on earth are you supposed to implement ii)? I'm not interested in answers which mention the Referer header. There are a myriad of factors which…
It might also just be: you have to check the referer. If your website has technical issues such that sometimes the referer isn't available, you have to change it so it always is. Or host it on one of the approved third-party hosts referenced in the license.