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Re: Firefox 68.0

#131

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> Well, no. I don't want to use a browser that is developed by an advertising company ... on an operating system developed by the exact same advertising company?

If there was a viable competitor, I would consider using it. There isn't.

There is. You just don't want to spend the money or use the phones/tablets from said competitor.

Re: Firefox 68.0

#132
post #71

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uBlock Origin is the only reason I use Firefox on Android. Mozilla broke extensions on desktop Firefox before and lost many users. Can't help but wonder what the hell are their product managers thinking? How can I recommend Firefox if they keep breaking it with little regard for users? Is there another browser that supports uBlock Origin for Android? I'm not talking about biased half baked built-in ad blockers, I wan…

Did they "break" - ie some bug caused a problem - or did they change the framework add-ons used after giving months of notice? Most users use no add-ons, and wouldn't notice the change, and many of those who do were aware of this ahead of time even if the add-on developers were slow to wake up to the reality.

Exactly, months. Likes that's enough time to completely rewrite your extension using an half-baked replacement. To name a few, Cookie-Autodelete [1] had to wait 7 months to get an API to clear the LocalStorage; noscript [2] lost tons of functionality and will probably never recover;

[1]: https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/issue...

[2]: https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/01/noscripts-rating-drops-aft...

Re: Firefox 68.0

#133
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I love Firefox. First thing I install on any new computer. Super happy they keep pushing the web forward. Not a fan of the chromium quasi monopoly (not that the folks behind it are bad, just that any monoculture is problematic). Thanks for pushing the web forward!

> Thanks for pushing the web forward! Making a browser that breaks extensions used by millions of people (Vimperator comes to mind) and making extension development harder is not pushing the web forward.

Vimperator was used by millions? I think it had about 10.000 users total.

Reality is, most popular add ons got ported very quickly, and the subsequent speed and reliability improvements for Firefox that would not have been possible while keeping the old extensions around have more than validated their decision.

Re: Firefox 68.0

#134
post #120

This marks the last Android release with extensions/add-on support. There will not be a 69 release of this edition of Firefox for Android ("Fennec"). The new remake of the mobile browser ("Fenix") does not have extensions support and it is on an indefinite and easily ignorable backlog. It is explicitly not being worked on this quarter. At the end of this quarter is the scheduled release of Firefox 69. Unless there's…

And the other point of view: > We're certainly aware of how significant ad blocking extensions are. This release required a great quantity of features with only a six month timeline until now. > We already support a very limited set of the WebExtensions API to offer features like Reader Mode. Rest assured that more features will land in the coming months. Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20298143 This rea…

> FUD

I originally commented there and expressed how they were underestimating the importance of ad blocking. One of the issues I pointed to as evidence (https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/96) has since been re-prioritized to Q3.

They seem to have heard the message.

Re: Firefox 68.0

#135

Not sure if placebo but firefox nightly 70 is a looot more snappier than 69. Now I regret chrome almost not at all. Thanks for the hard work to all involved.

That's placebo -- Nightly is built from our trunk. The only thing that changes between Nightly 69 and Nightly 70 is a version bump.

Re: Firefox 68.0

#136

> Local files can no longer access other files in the same directory. What impact will this have on web development without a web server? It sounds like you won't be able to load CSS or JS.

This bit me. I store my bookmarks as a file under revision control. I have a "bookmarks.js" file, and which is loaded via a local index.html file. There is some javascript magic for filtering, searching etc.

As of today's upgrade opening file:///home/skx/bookmarks.html no longer loads the JS/data. Breaking the system:

https://github.com/skx/bookmarks.public

Adding a local webserver is fine, but it's a complication I'd managed to avoid.

For reference this is the error I get:

> Cross-Origin Request Blocked:

> The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at

> file:////home/skx/bookmarks.data.

> (Reason: CORS request not http).

Re: Firefox 68.0

#137
post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there was a viable competitor, I would consider using it. There isn't.

There is. You just don't want to spend the money or use the phones/tablets from said competitor.

iOS is not a competitor for my needs.

Re: Firefox 68.0

#138
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uBlock Origin is the only reason I use Firefox on Android. Mozilla broke extensions on desktop Firefox before and lost many users. Can't help but wonder what the hell are their product managers thinking? How can I recommend Firefox if they keep breaking it with little regard for users? Is there another browser that supports uBlock Origin for Android? I'm not talking about biased half baked built-in ad blockers, I wan…

Did they "break" - ie some bug caused a problem - or did they change the framework add-ons used after giving months of notice? Most users use no add-ons, and wouldn't notice the change, and many of those who do were aware of this ahead of time even if the add-on developers were slow to wake up to the reality.

> after giving months of notice?

48 months.. 2 years of notice

Re: Firefox 68.0

#139

There are two things keeping me using Chrome. 1) Videostreams are way smoother using Chrome, at least on Linux. 2) I've enabled Emacs Input in Gnome. When I enter something in the address bar, both Firefox and Chrome show suggestions for websites below. In Chrome I can type Ctrl+n / Ctrl+p to navigate between the suggestions, because it respects my keyboard schema. In Firefox this opens new browser windows :( and I'v…

>Videostreams are way smoother using Chrome, at least on Linux. This is also the reason I use Chromium. I'd switch to Firefox as soon as it supports VA-API on GNU/Linux.

Interesting, multiple streaming platforms did not work on Chromium for me. So I'd have to switch to FF to view them. I now use FF full time

Re: Firefox 68.0

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post #48
post #31

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It's a shame it hasn't made it over to Mac yet - graphics card options are a lot more limited there so you'd figure it would be easier to support. But I suppose it's a much smaller market share.

There is a known severe performance issue on MacBooks with retina screens and integrated Intel graphics which this is suppose to be the solution to. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to have driven macOS to be a priority for the rollout.

macOS never seems to be a priority at Mozilla, which kind of sucks. Another power management issue is video decoding. Even when I force YouTube to play .mp4 instead of VP9, my battery use is still 2-3x higher on Firefox than Safari, despite H264 acceleration being easily available via VideoToolBox, and VideoToolBox has been available since 2011 (Lion) or 2012 (Mountain Lion).
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