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Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

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Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#131
post #83

The fact that these are called outages is kind of alarming. Do people rely on any of these as their exclusive communication when in danger?

Of course they do. In many developing countries, Facebook IS the Internet.

https://qz.com/333313/milliions-of-facebook-users-have-no-id...

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#132
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4) People love to find patterns where none exist

This is a fallacy all humans experience, however, what is the probability specifically that all these problems are unrelated? At what probability is it mathematically impossible that these problems are unrelated? AFAF

The answer to your last question is 0.

"Impossible" means "impossible", not "unbelievably improbable".

That's even more true when you ask about "mathematically impossible", as it reinforces the idea of formal logic being the relevant domain, where precise meaning of words is fundamental.

If you adjust your question to be "at what probability is it unreasonable to claim these problems are unrelated?", then the answer is subjective - different people have different standards for reasonability.

I think we'd need mountains more data than we have about the incidents to compute a meaningful probability, anyway.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#133
post #6

I find the outages of the last few days a curious coincidence : Slack, Google, Cloudflare, Azure, now FB. edit : added Slack after @kache_ mentioned it, added Azure after stevehubertron mentioned it.

Twitter notifications and DMs were also down today.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that the probability of these occurring so close together is very unlikely. Separately, this is a huge blow for Instagram/Facebook since this is one of the busiest social media sharing weeks in the US. I bet a lot of their engineers are answering pagers on vacation.

If you have your work with you, it isn't a vacation.

If it's emergencies only and you get compensated handsomely many people will feel it's worth it. Of course reality often looks different.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#135
post #6

I find the outages of the last few days a curious coincidence : Slack, Google, Cloudflare, Azure, now FB. edit : added Slack after @kache_ mentioned it, added Azure after stevehubertron mentioned it.

HN still seems to be working, perhaps they should consider hosting their own cloud?

HN is probably running on a LispMachine next to pg's desk. I wanted to say "under his desk", but you know, LispMachines...

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#136
Do you remember when we first heard about "the cloud"?

I remind about a video when Larry Ellison mentioned the cloud and I thought: "What is he speaking about? It's the internet".

How I was wrong...

Now we are in a situation where we have too much concentration and we are experiencing that. It's a problem.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Afghani independence day? Or Iraqi independence day? Or did you mean Libian independence day? Syrian perhaps? In NL there is currently no independence day.

Parent is referring to the holiday tomorrow in the United States.

I think GP understood quite well and wanted to express their dissatisfaction with the assumption that everyone is American.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#138

Browsing it right now is a good exercise for devs who need to make sure they think about low vision/blind users who browse via audio, etc. ie "Image may contain: a dog, sunglasses"

Automatic alt text is a nifty feature: https://www.facebook.com/help/216219865403298?helpref=faq_co...

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#139
post #49

Looks like Facebook image store is having issues. Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp use the same image store, so all the services are affected.

Could also be a networking issue.

If network capacity is severely reduced, the bulk static content (images/media) is what you'd switch off first.

The fact it's global makes that unlikely tho.

Re: Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outages

#140
post #136

Do you remember when we first heard about "the cloud"? I remind about a video when Larry Ellison mentioned the cloud and I thought: "What is he speaking about? It's the internet". How I was wrong... Now we are in a situation where we have too much concentration and we are experiencing that. It's a problem.

I wonder if there's a large enough market for a "decentralized cloud" along the lines of IPFS but for compute. And, yknow, actually working decently. Something where you could pay compute/storage operators for resources and also be a server host and share your excess compute power.
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