https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/ has lots of videos of the events today, for those who want more than static photos.
About 2M People Rally in Hong Kong Weekend Protests
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
It got pretty bad in the late 60s, ironically with pro Mao demonstrators during the cultural revolution (which had some spill over into HK).
You're right, I should have added: "after the 60s riots". Thanks for the reminder.
I didn't know about this, for anyone else curious -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_1967_leftist_riots
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
> short term leaders as found in democracies will try to get as much as they can in the short time they have, whereas lifetime leaders as in monarchies will treat the country more like a property owner would his own property The evidence shows the opposite. Political leaders (in any system) want to act in the short term. Democracies simply constrain them. No “lifetime leaders” are guaranteed a life term. They must co…
> Dictators are constrained in terms of backing away from bad decisions. They thus have a bad habit of doubling down on stupid decisions. I find this to match the behavior of the dominant parties in my country.
The difference is when one party doubles down on unpopular choices they become more likely to be voted out of office. This is direct communication between the populace and rulers.
In single party systems, dictatorships, etc leaders are frequently acting on really bad information or simply don’t feel the need to back down. Thus, such things tend to build up and compound over time.
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#1342M is ~27% of its population. Mind blowing if 2M is roughly correct.
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#135I wish they could use the Official Figure as 2M and 1. The 1 was tribute to the one died in protest of the bill [0]. R.I.P And I don't think the photos aren't what 2M people in the City really looks like. Here are few better ones. And thank you everyone who supported us, even if you are not in HK, it is still much appreciated. [0] https://time.com/5607742/hong-kong-protester-dies-anti-extra... [1] https://ibb.co/WtLM…
Your link [1] https://ibb.co/WtLMvCH is an altered image. See how it is mirrored horizontally?
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#136Justa matter of time before Beijing use Tiananmen force to quell these protesters. Done so multiple other places like Xinjiang and Xizang.
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#137They've made it. The Chief Executive apologized and the government has suspended the fugitive law amendment. That's really a RARE concession in these years because the Chinese government typically doesn't compromise at all under pressure.
> They've made it. The Chief Executive apologized and the government has suspended the fugitive law amendment. That's really a RARE concession in these years because the Chinese government typically doesn't compromise at all under pressure. First, the government is suspending the law amendment, not retracting it. The law amendment could be revived in a month or two--that is, after enough leaders have been arrested an…
What is the situation with bail in HK? In the US authorities often settle for incremental policy creep while counting on using legal and medical expenses to wear down activists in addition to physical violence.
People stateside have been very impressed with action in HK, taking notes on topics from communications to practicalities like quick extinguishing of gas grenades. Here it's often difficult to achieve sufficient density due to geographic dispersion as well as different political conditions.
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#138I am proud of our democratic cousins in Hong Kong; this is just the beginning. Who knows what kind of country China will be in 2047, maybe there is hope for democratic China or 50 more years of democratic Hong Kong, who knows. As for Taiwan, Taiwanese people already identify themselves with being Taiwanese. Nearly 80% of people polled identify themselves in fact, in recent polls. Now we just need the older generation…
I really look forward to Taiwan as its own independent country like Singapore.
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#139https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/ has lots of videos of the events today, for those who want more than static photos.
Good timeline with pics here:
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3014695...
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#140I am proud of our democratic cousins in Hong Kong; this is just the beginning. Who knows what kind of country China will be in 2047, maybe there is hope for democratic China or 50 more years of democratic Hong Kong, who knows. As for Taiwan, Taiwanese people already identify themselves with being Taiwanese. Nearly 80% of people polled identify themselves in fact, in recent polls. Now we just need the older generation…
I think the South East Asia region will be more stable if Taiwan, a democratic nation, rises in power and gets less influenced by CCP, whose legitimacy depends largely on fast GDP growth, which is increasingly impossible in this age of excess production and currently is done only with unsustainable credit expansion. Recently Xi is switching the legitimacy from fast GDP growth to revival nationalism--the so called Chinese dream [1]--but such aggression is also destablizing to the region.
Some coordinated efforts in the free world to raise Taiwan would help, but at least Taiwan is gaining a little bit from the recent trade tariffs [2].
[1]: https://www.eurasiareview.com/08122018-the-contours-of-xis-c...
[2]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-03/vietnam-t...