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Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#132

Jude CEO and Founder of Golden here. Super excited to take this live. We are out to build the next place for canonical knowledge on the Internet. It has been a long-term mission for me to open up the knowledge coverage of billions of niche topics, companies, technologies and new concepts. Our aim is to cover in excess of 10bn topics in high detail over time. Although we all love Wikipedia, there have been various iss…

This is so awesome!

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#133

Cynical self: They raised a $5mil round just to re-do wikipedia with more self-referential VC pats on the back. Intrigued self: If there is anything worth raising money for, it is building out a collective knowledge base for all of humanity. Angry self: Wikipedia is quite literally one of the most amazing things that the internet and millions of strangers have ever produced together, and lives as a vital proof of con…

To angry self: I dont entirely trust Wikipedia to give an objective/apolitical view of things all the time: there've been times where articles have been noticably influenced by a defacto, anachronistic political (progressive) position. I wouldnt mind having a redundant source of information where the possibility exists of current politics corrupting its articles' integrity

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#134

Cynical self: They raised a $5mil round just to re-do wikipedia with more self-referential VC pats on the back. Intrigued self: If there is anything worth raising money for, it is building out a collective knowledge base for all of humanity. Angry self: Wikipedia is quite literally one of the most amazing things that the internet and millions of strangers have ever produced together, and lives as a vital proof of con…

As well, think of the kind of impact 5mil would have on archive.org.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#135
so this is a for profit company that intends to use free labor contributions to exploit search engine SEO rankings and subsequently attract useless millions of daily visits and then you exit it for hundreds of millions a few years from now. It worked before, why wouldn't it work now? there are always enough dumb people who will help you make a fortune for free if you understand tech capitalism and manage to fool them; good luck anyway.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#137
For a tool that has the high goal of "mapping human knowledge" and use A.I., I'm just not very impressed by the lack of APIs and no mention of a data model.

I feel that to map human knowledge and make it accessible and understandable for machines, the data model should be put front and center. For me that means a knowledge graph (preferably with SPARQL/OWL capabilities).

Were's the metadata? The wiki pages don't even have schema.org data! I'd be more interesting if golden provided UI improvements over the querying and presentation of data from Wikidata and/or DBPedia, or if golden's editor would make it easier to annotate the content of the wiki pages with RDF data.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#138
Is there anything of traceability in Golden? In the past years, I have been documenting the works, exhibitions, and documents about a Dutch artists. While doing this, I have often come across conflicting information. I have discovered that what I actually need is a reasoning system about statements and have a mechanism for traceability with respect to every fact represented.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#139

Jude CEO and Founder of Golden here. Super excited to take this live. We are out to build the next place for canonical knowledge on the Internet. It has been a long-term mission for me to open up the knowledge coverage of billions of niche topics, companies, technologies and new concepts. Our aim is to cover in excess of 10bn topics in high detail over time. Although we all love Wikipedia, there have been various iss…

This is absolutely fantastic. I'd been distraught by Wikipedia policy of "notability" and deleting valuable articles that volunteers created by pouring several hours. I firmly believe that no knowledge, no human is small enough not to be "notable". I also like increased focus on tooling which Wikipedia has failed to deliver in all these years. I think Wikipedia was good start as trying to emulate encyclopedias of 18th century but in new age we need to move on to AI-first knowledge graph that can have billions of nodes where each node in the graph could be anything from some human to some object in my backyard to entire textbook.

There would obviously the question of how do you prevent misinformation and falsehood. If you want to scale to billions of nodes, moderators aren't going to cut it. One possibility is leveraging community and what I'd call chain of trust. For example, community can flag, upvote, downvote. This doesn't result in deletion but simply a signal to the reader about how trustworthy content this may be. The chain of trust mechanism can improve this further by inferring contributors that users have trusted previously. The StackOverflow like gamification for contributors can create wonders here. In addition, you can allowing users to create their social network so they can build their personal chain of trust. Another possibility is to put untrusted articles in draft domain and move them to main domain as trust level is increased. The key is to avoid deletion of content and retain it somehow so it can be improved and evolved.

Now the things I don't like about Golden:

When signing up, it forces bio to 140 chars. Why? Why not collect more knowledge about authors? Not artificially limiting information should be the point here, right?

I also find current interface very cluttered and unfriendly. After signup I was greeted with topic of blockchain and cell based meat occupying most of my screen real estate. I don't care about either and half-visible conversations under each topic does not help. How about asking me what I'm expert in? What are my interest? Add some algo magic to recommend topics for contribution?

I also don't like UX at all. For example, this is page on Bitcoin: https://golden.com/wiki/Bitcoin. The menu that suddenly breaks after quick intro hurts my eyes. The typography is straigning. The left menu just hard to grasp. On page for cluster, you get giant list of contributors on right which I care less. You can say whatever about Wikipedia but they got all these stuff right.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#140

Jude CEO and Founder of Golden here. Super excited to take this live. We are out to build the next place for canonical knowledge on the Internet. It has been a long-term mission for me to open up the knowledge coverage of billions of niche topics, companies, technologies and new concepts. Our aim is to cover in excess of 10bn topics in high detail over time. Although we all love Wikipedia, there have been various iss…

Looking at https://golden.com/wiki/Heyzap it seems like the summary has information that is not in the article.

If you start reading from the introduction, you won't know that Heyzap is a mobile advertising company.

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