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In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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I think the quote is actually, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun," per Google and Wikipedia. Is this part of Marxist theory, or Maoist? I genuinely don't know. I had always thought that Marx viewed the revolution as at least potentially peaceful, but I confess I have never read him.

It was Mao Zedong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_grows_out_of_t...

Ah, I know who it was. I was more asking whether he was reflecting a viewpoint from earlier Marxist theory, or whether it was a novel viewpoint of his.

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It was Mao Zedong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_grows_out_of_t...

Ah, I know who it was. I was more asking whether he was reflecting a viewpoint from earlier Marxist theory, or whether it was a novel viewpoint of his.

I think he based it on reality rather than theory. Every communist government has use force to "maintain the revolution": USSR, Cuba, Venezuela, DPRK, China, Romania, etc.

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I'm from Colombia and my family lives in one of the biggest cities that is relatively close to the border. I visit frequently and every time I visit, there are more and more venezuelan immigrants. This started happening years ago.

I'm shocked by the people who pretend that this is all propaganda and that the venezuelan people are ok with their government. I'm sure that the people living on the streets here aren't.

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Sanctions are a neutral policy, like Google pulling out of China. The US is holding back from interfering in Venezuela (only supporting the constitutionally elected leader) and also refusing to participate in the suffering of the people.

Nonsense. Sanctions kill. It's like withholding food from a person who is already hungry.

The US has offered food to those who are hungry. Lack of food is not the problem (Maduro has only very recently allowed aid to enter the country).

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post #107

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Nonsense. Sanctions kill. It's like withholding food from a person who is already hungry.

The US has offered food to those who are hungry. Lack of food is not the problem (Maduro has only very recently allowed aid to enter the country).

Maduro has always allowed aid into the country. He refused aid from the US as they have a history of using such aid to import weapons and such. Most humanitarian groups immediately chastised the US for even trying to send aid in that manner, both because of their history and that it's hard to take their offers in good faith while they simultaneously withold $11 billion of Venezuela's oil proceeds.

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post #106

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The economy is predominantly private: it is the sanctions hurting the economy. I refuse to defend Maduro, but he is the peoples’ choice. Yes there are anti-Maduro rallies, but there are also pro-Maduro rallies the media conveniently ignores. Meanwhile, the idea that the US could help without putting someone right wing in place that happens to benefit the supply of fuel against the interests of the people of Venezuela…

Here's a different view: https://economics21.org/how-socialism-destroyed-venezuela

That is blatantly from a capitalist think tank.

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The inflation rate is 2688670%, they are refusing aid, they are having widespread electricity outages and food shortages, it seems like their leader has become a despot. At what point is it reasonable for an outside intervention?

They are not refusing food aid, the Red Cross etc. have been let on all along. The US announced the Venezuelan government had no sovereignty over their border and sent "aid" trucks in, which were blocked. Incidentally, "humanitarian aid" is how the person the USA convicted as a criminal - Elliot Abrams - sent weapons to contras in and out of Nicaragua.

They absolutely are refusing food aid. Sources below. What is your stake in denying this? Are you pro-Maduro?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/07/americas/venezuela-aid-blocke...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/with-...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-diplom...

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#139

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Apples to oranges comparison, US citizens still have their freedoms. Some people are just irritated in the US because politics and because the deep state is losing its grip. Americans are not dying from starvation or being gunned down by the military for protesting the government.

There is no deep state. There is the rule of law, made by our representatives and questions are decided by courts. Regardless of one person's views, we make choices based on a legal basis.

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Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

#140

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There is no deep state. There is the rule of law, made by our representatives and questions are decided by courts. Regardless of one person's views, we make choices based on a legal basis.

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You gotta watch it though, srsly. Totally accessible and reasonable.
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