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Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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She doesn't need to be a regular trainer, she could be training people for various kinds of extreme activities.

The obvious is that she should be a coach for the Olympic cycling teams.

The article says at the height of her career Twigg never made more than $50k per year with sponsorships.

So coaches I bet would only be making $20-30k per year. Barely a living wage these days, unless you live in Montana

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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She won a medal which puts her at the top 1% but most athletes who go to Olympics or international championships don't win any medals but nevertheless have to through the same training and invest the same commitment. If she can't make it, it makes you wonder what happens to the rest who also saw their golden years pass by but without any medals or achievements to show off.

Well, if you worked hard, yet never won an Olympic medal, settling for a "boring" job might actually be easier.

It just seems like if you can push yourself mentally and physically to be a world champion, then a mediocre office job is exponentially easier.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Well, if you worked hard, yet never won an Olympic medal, settling for a "boring" job might actually be easier.

It just seems like if you can push yourself mentally and physically to be a world champion, then a mediocre office job is exponentially easier.

Idk, I don't think these things are so linear.

I'm not sure what exactly is a "mediocre office job", but normal jobs require a different set of skills and priorities. Athletics benefit from a very singular focus, it's clear what you need to do and largely how to do it. If you're not good enough, it's generally made very clear pretty fast. There's often a huge network around you and lots of emotional reinforcement.

Normal living and normal jobs are not so. The big difference being that your priorities are scattered and there's no clear item to focus on. Very easy to miss things and make a mistake. Jobs are full off odd negotiations and office politics and proving something is hard. It's not very clear where you are.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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I suppose there's something strange with sport at all. Her story isn't unique, just look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verona_van_de_Leur

Amount of people in sports are much lower than in army, that's why we may not hear their stories, but it remembers me a problem with veterans. The same issue - it's hard for people people to adapt for a new life without extreme load. I really don't know the right answer. Teach them since start life is not only fighting, cycling, trainings ? there're something else external life ? But it's hard when your couch pushes you to your limits& I don't know.

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Great story. I kind of agree with many others here that it sounds like a mental health issue. But I also think that the story is more complicated than that. We shouldn't neglect the impact on the brain a professional sports career has. I've seen it many times. The amount of sacrifice and energy put into something like this leads to a very unbalanced lifestyle, which is usually encouraged from all sides (parents, coac…

A big part of it is not so much the joy of achieving a goal by winning, but instead it's more of relief that you didn't fail.

The positive feelings from winning do not come close to offsetting the negative feelings from not winning, even if it's second place.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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> lack of statistical evidence that suicide hotline numbers actually prevent suicides in the long run. I'm not sure if you say what you mean; but that's not really their purpose as I understand it? Prevent a suicide today, open the door to treatment tomorrow - vs failing to prevent a suicide today, and there being no option for treatment tomorrow?

There's not much evidence that suicide hotlines prevent a death by suicide today thus opening the door to treatment tomorrow. There's even a suggestion that suicide helplines might normalise suicide, or make it more real. https://twitter.com/ProfLAppleby/status/1110821429443026946

That's much more relevant criticism.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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mental health problem or not - it is ABSOLUTELY INSANE that a decorated olympic champion, best in her class at the time, that represented this country and won multiple medals has to now live on the streets.

This is what is wrong with America - we cant even take care of the very best of our own (after they cant help themselves anymore) but are quick to point out at other's people's/countries/nationalities problems.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Homelessness is the tip of the housing iceberg. Right behind the homeless are those who are a paycheck, or emergency, from losing everything. Behind them are millions of paying out there earnings in high rent, forced to share apartments to live where the job pays. Fronting it all are upper-middle class people, foreign investors, and venture capital, buying up properties to rent out. The cause is not a lack of "afford…

The term "landlord" has to go away. We are not in mid-evil times anymore:

1. It should be made financially speaking prohibitively expensive to be a residential landlord. I.e. buy a house and charge others rent to live in it. Tax it at 100%. Done!

2. Change zoning/building codes to allow modern and more efficient construction, allow people to get easy financing to build more HIGH QUALITY and affordable housing.

3. Change mortgage laws to make it possible for more financially responsible families to build and own homes.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Former editor here. This is a really interesting story, but if I were Greenstone's editor I would feel really conflicted about running it. There's the elephant in the room -- mental health. What did the reporter get on record? "She did not want to discuss mental health but feels it should be treated more seriously in Washington." Then there's her family. What did the reporter get on record? "Her immediate family in t…

The elephant in the room isn’t “mental health” - it’s severe developmental trauma. As described in the article: “Twigg was still a child when she became homeless. A prodigy in academics and athletics, she started at UW at the age of 14... At this time, she was living in Seattle in a basement with her mother and sister. Twigg’s sister says their mom kicked Twigg out; Twigg remembers being offered the option to leave a…

This! Anyone who has had any trauma informed care training would have zeroed in on this instantly.
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