I don't doubt the sea level is rising and that Miami will be inundated. But I think there's too much money and development put into that city so people won't just give up and leave in 30 years. Instead I think there will be increased investment in technology and infrastructure to keep the waters at bay. It might become something more akin to Venice or Amsterdam.
Heaven or High Water – Selling Miami's Last 50 Years
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#132I live in Orlando. I have lived in Florida for all of my life (47 years) and I also wonder how we are going to adapt. I don't see any long term planning. A few years ago I was looking for a new office building. Considering the parking situations, I asked each developer what they were planning for electric cars, Ubers, and autonomous cars. None of them had a plan. They all said such changes were 20 years or more away.…
It's not expensive to install electric chargers in existing building. "Planning" for Uber involves what? Having a drive in in front of the building? How do you plan for non-existent self driving cars? Any practical advice you can share with the architects here?
> Any practical advice you can share with the architects here?
Could they at least run one regular (120v/15a) circuit + wall outlet to each parking spot? Is that too much to ask?
That's enough electricity to give every EV car an extra 60 miles of EV range overnight. And would be plenty for any other use (ebikes and the like)
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Except taxi ranks are a queue of fungible vehicles; uber/lyft's are "bespoke" so the exact same structure won't work quite as well. But it wouldn't be hard to make a pickup/dropoff area. I suspect there already is one at most places, it's just a pissy, petty policy that doesn't allow ridesharing (etc) to use it.
There's no reason why rideshare queues and car-rider assignments couldn't be fungible up to the point the passenger steps into the vehicle, special needs excepted.
Those are called taxis. Even then they only line up at major locations, not residential buildings.
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Say what you want about New Orleans, at least the drinking water isn’t screwed.
Is this a joke? We have water boil advisories on a quarterly basis because the drinking water is totally screwed by neglected infrastructure.
A boil advisory because of short periods of low pressure is one thing, needing RO because saltwater has infiltrated your aquifer (like what will happen in Miami) is another can of worms
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There's no reason why rideshare queues and car-rider assignments couldn't be fungible up to the point the passenger steps into the vehicle, special needs excepted.
Those are called taxis. Even then they only line up at major locations, not residential buildings.
No.
Rideshare still behaes ona requ basis. But the vehicle at the head of the queue serves the passenger first requesting a ride, special needs excepted. Out-of-order arrival of rides is addressed that way.
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Those are called taxis. Even then they only line up at major locations, not residential buildings.
No. Rideshare still behaes ona requ basis. But the vehicle at the head of the queue serves the passenger first requesting a ride, special needs excepted. Out-of-order arrival of rides is addressed that way.
That means the rider wouldn't know what vehicle is coming and when, which goes against the whole experience.
Also it's unlikely for there to be that many rides queued up at a single residential location which is why they aren't queued up there in the first place.
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There's a bit of that in this older article. The problem of spoiling of fresh water is insurmountable. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/miami-ho...
Why is it insurmountable? With cheap solar energy desalination becomes cheaper. And even without that countries like Israel now use desalinated water for 70% of their total water use.
Where do you put the salt? Israel has that problem now.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a bit of that in this older article. The problem of spoiling of fresh water is insurmountable. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/miami-ho...
Why is it insurmountable? With cheap solar energy desalination becomes cheaper. And even without that countries like Israel now use desalinated water for 70% of their total water use.
Insurmountable perhaps is too strong - economically unfeasible may be better. But all the cheap fresh water most of Florida have now goes away in the near future. This is in addition to all the other problems listed in the article that other areas of the USA will not have.
Israel may be a good technical example but not a practical example, it has to make the most of their limited land for expansion and geopolitical situation of being surrounded by enemies - they also do not have to care about financial considerations since the about 1/3 of the USA's foreign aid goes to Israel, the political situation in the USA means this foreign aid is pretty safe for the forseeable future.
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#139This article is patent nonsense. Nobody knows what the fuck is going to happen to Miami in 50 years including the author, and an anecdotal poll of front line real estate agents is mindless. Even in that context the real estate agent’s worldview seems a lot more sanguine than hers. History has shown in this country that you’re a lot more likely to be right predicting that the rich will figure out how to preserve their…
Rich people have multiple passports, Swiss bank accounts and real estate in New Zeeland for when shit goes down. They have options. Namely get the hell out of Dodge. I don't think they are really all that attached to Miami.
There's a ton of dumb, rich money in Miami pushing prices up to embezzle money out of corrupt regimes all over the world. When things get bad, they'll just find the next place and fly out on private jets. Those flying commercial will be left holding the bag.
Just remember that Miami Beach isn't Miami. There are a lot of Miami residents who don't feel like putting a dime into Miami Beach because it's only tourists and foreigners.
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Honest question: has anyone, engineer or otherwise, yet come to the rescue of New Orleans in the fourteen years since Katrina? The flooding there, and our response to it, is so far our best benchmark of what we can expect as sea levels keep rising.
$14B in new Army Corp of Engineers work, in and around New Orleans? Doing work isn't sexy, and it doesn't make national news media, but it's what gets shit done. And the Army Corp of Engineers has its management problems, but it also tends to be caught between "We don't believe anything will happen, so we're not giving you enough funding / control, but are giving you an unfunded mandate" and "Something happened! How…
There's some visibly new pumping stations and some that shut down, but they don't run these. As a result, they're left to the city to mismanage and have normal storms turn into bad floods. I'm not being political here, this is fact with people walking off the job or just not doing their job.
The city's sewer systems are completely busted and need way more than $14b to fix.
Yeah the Corps fixed what they broke, but there's not a lot of new investment by them.