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Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by belorn »

GVIrish wrote: post #98
Tepix wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Manning revealed war crimes, yet the only person who went to prison was Manning. That's all we need to know really. The system is broken und unable to fix itself. Edit: Free Reality Winner

The system is not perfect, but the reason Manning went to jail is because she made an indiscriminate leak of secrets of which she did not review before she released them. Had she only released material on stuff she had thought to be a crime, then there would have been a much stronger case to be made as a whistle blower. It would be like if someone working at a hospital exposed a medical fraud scheme but leaked all th…

You mean like if manning had done as Daniel Ellsberg, she would not have been charged and put on trial?

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Post by King-Aaron »

idlewords wrote: post #127
sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Snowden and Assange are not being detained.

The very second Assange walks out of the embassy he will be.

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Post by threeseed »

geowwy wrote: post #45
lsh wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, he really isn't. But he will almost definitely be extradited the moment he lives the embassy. It might be a refugee situation, fleeing the US in fear of his life, but he's from Australia..

His choice is either stay in the embassy or extradition to the US where he will face a very severe penalties, possibly the death sentence. Technically he's not being held against his will. But the reality is he can't leave.

> But the reality is he can't leave

Of course he can. He can walk out the door right now.

He chooses not to leave because he doesn't want to deal with the consequences of what he has done. You may not agree with that but it's an undeniable fact.

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Post by gcthomas »

dragonwriter wrote: post #77
rmc wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it hasn't, there hasn't been a trial. That's kinda the whole point of him being in the embassy.

Well, the recent immediate point of him being in the trial is avoiding the British bail jumping charges from his flight to the embassy to evade the extradition on the rape charges; the extradition is no longer active.

But it could become active again very quickly while he is held by the UK authorities. The rape case is still open afaik.

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Post by black-tea »

rmc wrote: post #71
polotics wrote: post #50

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This has been disproven, so: citation needed, please...

No it hasn't, there hasn't been a trial. That's kinda the whole point of him being in the embassy.

In Britain, people are innocent until proven guilty.

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Post by mejari »

black-tea wrote: post #52
vixen99 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which system do you have in mind and what's going to fall apart 'without the lies'?

I'll give you one example. France has recently made it illegal to do paternity testing. Someone clearly understands that without all the lies their population of single mothers would skyrocket.

If by "recently" you mean 5 years ago. And by "illegal to do paternity testing" you mean "illegal to do secret paternity testing by private citizens without a court order". So your claim seems very false, and doesn't back up your idea that "their populations of single mothers would skyrocket".

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Post by realityking »

dragonwriter wrote: post #107
rmc wrote: post #72

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An EU country cannot fulfil an extradition if there's a chance of the death penalty.

> An EU country cannot fulfil an extradition if there's a chance of the death penalty. Who says the UK will be an EU country if/when it gets around to extraditing him? I mean, the bail jumping charges should give them some leeway on timing.

That might be an argument today but hardly 7 years ago.

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Post by Pimpus »

wurst_case wrote: post #58
kzrdude wrote: post #47

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Thanks for the reminder - Manning is currently not free https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/08/chelsea-mann...

Clearly Manning is the most simpathetic of all mistreated 'leakers'. Truly, what does anyone gain by having her locked up?

> Clearly Manning is the most simpathetic of all mistreated 'leakers'.

Isnt "she" (he?) a trannie? I still support her, because whether I'm sympathetic of a person and their flaws is irrelevant.

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Post by mejari »

antt wrote: post #69
Krasnol wrote: post #62

His development from a someone with a idea that could have made whistle blowing a trend, to a FSB asset and annoying twitter troll is really...unfortunate. I wonder what his right wing followers in the US will say when US agents pick him up in the UK.

The only unfortunate thing is how many people turned on him when he started exposing people who they liked. Turns out that all the people who I thought were on the side of truth in the Bush years were just on the side of Democrats.

Yes, selling Bill Clinton "Bimbo" t-shirts on their online store certainly screams "exposing the secrets of the powerful".

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Post by arminiusreturns »

sschueller wrote: post #39
geeareyou2019 wrote: post #17

Keep up the great Wikileaks! “In one of the messages, sent at 6:35 p.m. on the day of the election, Wikileaks wrote, "Hi Don if your father ‘loses’ we think it is much more interesting if he DOES NOT conceed [sic] and spends time CHALLENGING the media and other types of rigging that occurred—as he has implied that he might do." Wikileaks reportedly claimed contesting the election could help his father further delegit…

"created: 33 minutes ago" just to post this?

It's not the new accounts to watch out for, they are obvious. Military industrial congressional academic think tank complex (as Ray McGovern has been calling it) psyop sockpuppetry is much more subtle and yes, they are here on HN. Hell, the irony is that their plan to deligitimize Assange was leaked... but people are still falling for it.
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