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Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

#132
post #131

I would be happier if Firefox dropped the prompts "feature" completely. Just ignore it. Less code, less dependencies, and less hassle for everyone involved.

And you can't think of any valid use-case for notifications for anyone? Bearing in mind that we are talking about a huge range of potential apps that now run in the browser?

How about communication apps? Or reminder apps?

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

#133
Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)?

I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up.

I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is suggesting in the article is good, this should have been like this from the first day. I hope other browser vendors quickly follow.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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post #133

Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…

Used them for paging/escalation systems (VictorOps, Pagerduty). Agree with all you wrote though, these are very niche use cases.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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post #133

Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…

I use OneSignal on my blog (https://www.stavros.io/), which shows a small bell on the bottom right. If you click the bell, you get prompted to enable notifications for new articles. Quite a few people have done that, as it's pretty convenient if you want to be notified of new content.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

#136
post #90

It's insane that the two visible options are "Not now" and "Allow notifications" while 99 percent of the time I want never bother me again, in fact disable this feature entirely. I clicked yes exactly 3 times (my own Nextcloud instance, Protonmail and Whatsapp web), I'd be happy to do some more clicking to enable those at the "cost" of never being bugged again.

I was beginning to wonder if I can disable globally by default and have no popups, just manually enable it for a specific site if I want it badly enough (I don't think I ever will anyway).

Of course then they'll start showing weird UI pop ups to enable stuff, but if websites ever do that I will close them as I do with sites that tell me to disable adblock, the last few times I ever got malware on my system was due to ads, I am NEVER turning off adblock. This was many years ago, now I only download FLOSS just to keep it that way.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

#137
post #62

This “feature” is abused terribly around the web. For every site with useful notifications like gmail, there are 10 which misuse it. Yesterday I had the misfortune of misclicking on the prompt from a website. I started getting notifications like “YOUR COMPUTER IS INFECTED WITH A VIRUS”. Turning off notifications for that website took at least 4 clicks through Chrome settings. Good to know there is a setting to turn i…

>This “feature” is abused terribly around the web. For every site with useful notifications like gmail, there are 10 which misuse it.

I think you're off by an order of magnitude there. It's at least 100 sites that misuse it for every legitimate one.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

#138
post #133

Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…

Looking at my permissions, it'd only Mastodon/Pleroma instances and chat. The other 80~90% of sites that request permissions are blocked.

The most annoying are news/blog sites. Who the hell actually clicks Allow? Like 1%? 2%?

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

#140
post #139

It's slightly unfortunate that after reading this I went to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/notificatio... to read up about them, and immediately got an unsolicited "allow notifications?" prompt.

Well, what's good for the goose.
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