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Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Did you ever need to provide a resume/CV? If so were you honest about your education? Did you just omit it?

I've had companies ask for high school transcripts. What the heck.

I would walk away if I was asked for it, even though my grades were good. That's BS.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#132
If you're working at a company that has multiple offices around the country (say SF, NYC, Boston), is it unreasonable to ask for the same compensation that a worker in the most expensive office gets? Assuming the role/responsibilities will be the same and the team consists of people from all offices.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Years of experience tops out at "8+"? An engineer that started working at 22 is barely 30 by the time they reach that experience level. Is 8 years really the point where additional experience ceases to have a meaningful effect on salary? Or do these three cities (SF/NYC/Seattle) just do a pretty good job of expelling software engineers after they attain their first gray hair?

At 8+ you leverage your professional network and don't rely on websites like triplebyte

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the latter. Additional years don't matter as much past 10 or so... you're kind of doing the same types of things over and over as history repeats itself.

>you're kind of doing the same types of things over and over Well this would be the root of the problem right here, not "experience doesn't matter after 10 years." That's nonsense. Experienced people with in-depth, cross-functional knowledge obtained from several, 5-8yr "sub careers" in various specialties can be worth their weight in gold.

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Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Isn't it in triplebtyte's interest for these numbers to be inflated? The data seems to be at the heart of a conflict of interest, as it would not be in the author's interest for these numbers to be lower than anticipated. I don't really trust "research", or just "data" in this case coming from a party that has a very direct interest in the results being one thing over another.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Ben from Triplebyte here, I'm the engineer who built this tool from our offer data. The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. One explanation is that CS really is a field where educational signaling doesn't (or at least needn't) matter as much as in o…

So are $300,000 Google salaries a myth, or Triplebyte doesn't place with FAANG?

The above data is only of engineers hired using TripleByte platform. I saw only a handful of open positions with Apple. The data is based on the type of companies uses the platform to hire which probably doesn't involve big paying companies such as Googles, FB, Uber etc

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#137
post #85

Years of experience tops out at "8+"? An engineer that started working at 22 is barely 30 by the time they reach that experience level. Is 8 years really the point where additional experience ceases to have a meaningful effect on salary? Or do these three cities (SF/NYC/Seattle) just do a pretty good job of expelling software engineers after they attain their first gray hair?

I'd argue that when it comes to writing code, technology changes fast enough that after a decade, you've hit a pretty clear plateau. You've got the fundamentals down, and you're a master of your current language.

There's a lot of managerial things you continue to learn, but that requires you to be in a position with enough political capital to actually stop history from repeating itself. It's only useful knowing that Project X will fail, if you can convince people to instead do the more successful X++. I'd expect job title to be a much better indicator here: having 20 years of experience doesn't mean you have the aptitude or inclination to succeed at office politics.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#138

Ben from Triplebyte here, I'm the engineer who built this tool from our offer data. The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. One explanation is that CS really is a field where educational signaling doesn't (or at least needn't) matter as much as in o…

Coming from a much smaller East Coast city, it's unsurprising that these salaries overshadow mine by a large margin. However, I don't really mind. I make in the 80-90k range coming from a self taught background. I receive recruiter emails from FAANG weekly, but see no motivation to leave. I'm a big fish in a small pond. I feel that when engineers aren't a dime a dozen, I have more value, more "job security", and more pull with intangibles such as PTO and work from home flexibility.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#139

I'm in Boston & went through an intensive FT job search here about 18 months ago. I'm a mobile developer with 20+ years total experience in desktop, backend, web+mobile, product management, started my own company, etc. Worked with lots of recruiters, personal network etc., felt like I really got a sense of what the salary landscape is here. Some facts: - I was leaving a job at a hot unicorn startup that paid $125K ba…

Only way to find out is to interview more with numbers that get rejected.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#140
Base comp isn't a great metric because it widely varies based on compensation schema.

For exmaple, Amazon has a cap on base (I think it's 160k) and provides huge amounts of stock beyond that. I'd imagine it's a similar story for many companies.

Total comp is a far more realistic and accurate measurement.

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