Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by vezycash » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:39 PM UTC

swebs wrote: post #42

Whenever Firefox is automatically updated through my package manager, any open instances refuse to load any new pages or tabs until I restart Firefox . Needless to say, this is absolutely infuriating when I'm in the middle of something important. Does anyone know how to disable this feature?

Unlike Chrome, Firefox makes it easy to disable automatic updates.

They removed the "never check for updates" option and nag nag nag to update.

I unintentionally updated multiple times when the nag menu conveniently appeared while I was pressing the keyboard.

The last accident made me firewall Firefox's update program.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by vernie » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:39 PM UTC

Didn't the whole creative coding community pitch a fit when Chrome did this?

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by tehlike » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:40 PM UTC

diminish wrote: post #130

At the end unless Firefox doesn't block JavaScript, it won't have much effect. Actually it's also time to ban JavaScript after horrendous front end frameworks made simple page loads slow, energy and time consuming.

That is the most pessimist comment on this thread.

Javascript is useful, it is just a shame most people dont use it for good.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by ASalazarMX » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:41 PM UTC

xattt wrote: post #128

sercand wrote: post #116

I have been using Firefox on macOS for a while but firefox is not well-integrated with the OS. Scrolling, downloading files, playing video/audio and many more have different convention from Safari/Chrome. Also, I am trying to avoid using Firefox on battery because it is a killer.

I’ve commented about this before, specifically about Firefox on OS X, but the sentiment seems to be that “you’re using it wrong”.

Truly in the Steve Jobs spirit.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by kevin_b_er » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #13

Tomte wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have time-based releases.

Ok I was not aware of that. Has it always been the case?

After chrome started a policy of version number inflation, firefox, firefox did the same for marketing reasons, else'd we'd be on like... version 6.6 instead of 66.0

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by anoncake » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

tehlike wrote: post #133

diminish wrote: post #130

At the end unless Firefox doesn't block JavaScript, it won't have much effect. Actually it's also time to ban JavaScript after horrendous front end frameworks made simple page loads slow, energy and time consuming.

That is the most pessimist comment on this thread. Javascript is useful, it is just a shame most people dont use it for good.

We cant ban just the bad Javascript, a browser cannot distinguish it from the good. And overall, Javascript does more harm than good.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

diminish wrote: post #130

At the end unless Firefox doesn't block JavaScript, it won't have much effect. Actually it's also time to ban JavaScript after horrendous front end frameworks made simple page loads slow, energy and time consuming.

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Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by pcwalton » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

benol wrote: post #74

Considering the recent "Spectre is here to stay" paper [1], can anyone comment on whether Firefox should be considered secure until the work on process-per-site lands (I believe they are working on it)? [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.05178

We don't see Spectre vulnerabilities in the wild, and in any case Firefox has mitigations for it such as lowering timer resolution.

The ongoing Fission work is basically defense in depth against future potential Spectre-like vulnerabilities.

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by Sharlin » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

fimdomeio wrote: post #123

From the last 3 or so versions Firefox performance on my retina mac is indistinguishable from chrome (from a humam perspective not looking at ram cpu usage), so I'm very happy to be using firefox full time once again. At some point I knew it was time to close firefox when the fans started blowing at max speed. Does not happen any more.

> At some point I knew it was time to close firefox when the fans started blowing at max speed.

In my experience on Mac the guilty party has consistently been the plugin container (or rather something inside it, presumably a bad video codec). `killall plugin-container` fixes the problem without having to restart Firefox, but unfortunately also crashes many if not most tabs (appears everything wants to use a multimedia plugin or another these days...)

Re: Firefox 66.0 Aims to Reduce Online Annoyances

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Post by dymk » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 4:50 PM UTC

anoncake wrote: post #136

tehlike wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the most pessimist comment on this thread. Javascript is useful, it is just a shame most people dont use it for good.

We cant ban just the bad Javascript, a browser cannot distinguish it from the good. And overall, Javascript does more harm than good.

We'll probably just have to agree to disagree re: "JS does more harm than good".

I have at least 5 progressive webapps open right now, none of which could work without javascript. Of the other 20 websites I have open in other tabs, none are being annoying or aggressive, and I'm not even using an adblocker.