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Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

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Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#131

Its too bad nobody invented a browser header to be sent with HTTP requests for Allow-Cookies: SURE_YES_WHATEVER_OMG_STOP_ASKING_PLZ

It's too bad nobody came up with the simple idea of forcing browsers to ask permission before sending personally identifying information everywhere.

people would just begin to ignore those too, like they ignore app permission grants

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#132

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What you believe "over there" is wrong; data about you isn't yours. You can pass all the laws you like, that doesn't change the moral fact of the matter.

I hope one day you get to reflect on that sentence you just wrote.

I hope one day Europe stops trying to kill the human rights of its people.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#133

Its too bad nobody invented a browser header to be sent with HTTP requests for Allow-Cookies: SURE_YES_WHATEVER_OMG_STOP_ASKING_PLZ

It's too bad nobody came up with the simple idea of forcing browsers to ask permission before sending personally identifying information everywhere.

How would that solve anything? The comment you are replying to doesn't want to be asked for permission for cookies. The commentor wants all the cookie requests to be accepted automatically.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#134

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> If you want to use external tracking and be GDPR-compliant, you must offer a clear choice ("yes/no") and you must not use pre-ticked boxes (i.e. an opt-out approach) Exactly this. Basically what the GDPR says is: if your business doesn't require the data, you cant use it without the user's consent. And data used for better advertising is NOT essential to e.g. a news site. What's more, the regulation syas that you c…

This is the view of a US person: These are private owned and operated web sites. The site owner determines what is "essential." If you do not agree to to the terms, do not use the site. If you don't want to be tracked for advertising, that's on you to install ad blockers.

Are you allowed to sell your kidney in the US? (No, you aren't.)

This means that a site operator can't offer you access to a super awesome news site in exchange for your kidney. They can't get away by saying "but you can choose not to use the site".

Well, Europe does the same thing for your personal data.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#135
this isnt very accurate. Usually, there is first a generic "this site uses cookies" popup, then an interstitial about how much they "care for your privacy", then a popup about their newsletter, and finally a sticky header to nag you to take their survey.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#136

internet visitors must be asked for permission in advance for any tracking software to be placed — such as third-party tracking cookies; tracking pixels; and browser fingerprinting tech — and that that permission must be freely obtained... Is this really what we want? Yes. I'm not even European, and I'm perfectly fine with this. Ask me to track me. If I like you, your web site, or your content, then sure. I'll give y…

>Yes. I'm not even European, and I'm perfectly fine with this.

>Ask me to track me. If I like you, your web site, or your content, then sure. I'll give you a little personal data.

This should be a setting you choose in your browser and the rest of us (> 99%) should be able to ignore.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#137
post #91

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Anyone who didn't see this as the predictable end-result of requiring cookie awareness and consent was hopelessly naive about how large vs. small organizations respond to unfunded government mandates. The money and time could have been a lot better spent on international awareness campaigns arming consumers with more privacy knowledge instead of expecting website owners to shoulder the informational burden (because t…

These organizations do have such an incentive. The very essence of GDPR is to create these incentives. The EU's goal with GDPR was to make user data a liability , and to encourage organizations to reconsider their need to hoover and hoard it. The GDPR is unlikely to be overturned, and there are plenty in the EU who are eager to enforce it. Just because it's not being enforced right this second doesn't mean the law wo…

> Especially if Margrethe Vestager replaces Jean-Claude Juncker as president of the European Commission, you can expect a ton of action on this front.

the odds of this are essentially zero

she's in a minor EU party and her own country won't put her forward as candidate

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#139
post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's too bad nobody came up with the simple idea of forcing browsers to ask permission before sending personally identifying information everywhere.

How would that solve anything? The comment you are replying to doesn't want to be asked for permission for cookies. The commentor wants all the cookie requests to be accepted automatically.

He's suggesting making the decision once, per-browser, not per-website, whether or not to allow cookies. Then the browser can include this information in the HTTP header, so the website never needs to ask you.

Re: Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop

#140

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It's too bad nobody came up with the simple idea of forcing browsers to ask permission before sending personally identifying information everywhere.

people would just begin to ignore those too, like they ignore app permission grants

That type reductive reasoning can be trivially applied to any proposed solution (for nearly any problem). You can't really force anything, eventually you just have to accept that some folks won't go along with it, and let them make their own mistakes.
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