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Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by factcheck86 »

teekert wrote: post #9

"Approximately 58 per cent of Canadians admitted to peeing in the pool at least once in a recent survey of 9,500 people conducted by Travelocity." Never looking a Canadians the same ever again.

Actually, this is a completely incorrect statement in the article. If you follow the link they show in the article, it brings you to an article about a survey that TravelZoo did and the question is: "Have you ever taken a tinkle in the ocean or a pool?" The OCEAN or the pool. This completely changes the question and so the 58% regarding 'peeing in a pool' is wrong (it could easily be that 99% of those people peed in the ocean and not a pool, which is very different). Plus it shows that 64% of Americans said "yes" to that question, so the American number is higher. This is what happens when articles just haphazardly brush over actual statistics and completely distort their meaning...

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by factcheck86 »

factcheck86 wrote: post #131
teekert wrote: post #9

"Approximately 58 per cent of Canadians admitted to peeing in the pool at least once in a recent survey of 9,500 people conducted by Travelocity." Never looking a Canadians the same ever again.

Actually, this is a completely incorrect statement in the article. If you follow the link they show in the article, it brings you to an article about a survey that TravelZoo did and the question is: "Have you ever taken a tinkle in the ocean or a pool?" The OCEAN or the pool. This completely changes the question and so the 58% regarding 'peeing in a pool' is wrong (it could easily be that 99% of those people peed in…

Plus the CBC doesn't even get the source name right - it's TravelZoo not Travelocity... This is some shabby work. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/64-of-americans-pee-in-po_n_7...

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by enraged_camel »

trentlott wrote: post #36
sizzzzlerz wrote: post #12

I've always wanted a product that you could add to the swimming pool water that reacts to human urine by coloring the water immediately surrounding the pee-er. Say a neon orange or red. Over time, the colored water gets diluted and disappears. Maybe pee-shaming is what's required to stop people from doing it.

I vaguely remember this being a plot point in an episode of 'The Adventures of Pete and Pete'†. I'm sure there are plenty of chemists that have valiantly attempted to find something that could both stay stable in UV-blasted chlorinated water and react with a weak acid to give an absorption in the visible wavelength. . .but that is a very long and hard-to-fulfill wishlist. Anyway, it's just any sort of amine reacting…

>>Even if nobody urinated in the pool, the sweat people produce would still be able to cause it.

That's not an issue though, because it would still provide the benefit of showing you exactly how clean/dirty the water is.

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by cmurf »

sbov wrote: post #69
gambiting wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm constantly shocked and disgusted that people actually pee in pools and that it's not some joke someone made up somewhere.

Sometimes kids even poop in the pool. Happened at a pool we went to last week.

When the sign says "shower before entering the pool" they aren't just talking about sweat. They mean "clean your butthole, you are a filthy primate". If your butthole isn't clean before you enter the pool, you're pooping in the pool.

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by StavrosK »

keypusher wrote: post #47

Chlorine reacts with pretty much any organic compound (hair, sweat, skin, urine) to produce chloramine. And yes, while this is the thing that irritates your eyes, it's not to say that chlorine is harmless either. There is evidence for respiratory and organ damage from extended exposure to chlorinated pools. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4351252/

Also, chloramine is what gives a pool that "pool smell".

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by jules »

TallGuyShort wrote: post #119
jules wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they shouldn't be in the pool then.

If you know a humane way to get children and seniors to never accidentally pee a little you could be making a lot of money.

Keep them in a separate pool or mandate pool diapers. Consider this thought experiment. You have a movie theatre where the people on the balcony may pee and that pee drips down on the faces of people below them. Would this be considered acceptable and would I be considered insensitive for complaining and insisting that those people wear diapers or else should not be in a place where their pee ends up in the faces of others? Why is it acceptable in a swimming pool?

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by michaelmrose »

amelius wrote: post #77
sizzzzlerz wrote: post #12

I've always wanted a product that you could add to the swimming pool water that reacts to human urine by coloring the water immediately surrounding the pee-er. Say a neon orange or red. Over time, the colored water gets diluted and disappears. Maybe pee-shaming is what's required to stop people from doing it.

How bad is urine really, in the quantities found in a typical pool? Remember that doctors used to taste urine, to test for e.g. diabetes.

Is this the justifications of a pool defiler?

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by unimpressive »

cbsks wrote: post #78
thom wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I may be missing the joke here, but for many years swimming pools merely _claimed_ they had this, to discourage people.

I distinctly remember hearing--and believing--that rumor when I was growing up. Now that I know it isn't true, I'm not afraid to pee in the pool ;)

Well that's certainly antisocial.

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by michaelmrose »

LeonM wrote: post #28
sizzzzlerz wrote: post #12

I've always wanted a product that you could add to the swimming pool water that reacts to human urine by coloring the water immediately surrounding the pee-er. Say a neon orange or red. Over time, the colored water gets diluted and disappears. Maybe pee-shaming is what's required to stop people from doing it.

My dad once told me that this was done when he was young (so I'd guess around late 60's / early 70's). He told me it wasn't received well by the public, as swimmers (especially young children and older people) can loose some urine by accident. The dye in the water would damage their confidence.

It was never done nor possible.

Re: Pee, Not Chlorine, Causes Red Eyes from Swimming Pools: CDC (2015)

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Post by theothermkn »

Alright, I'm taking the karma hit. Why in the fuck is this on HN? How is this interesting to "hackers?" This is exactly the kind of click-baity stuff that HN is supposed to be known for not having. I just don't get it. I know we're not supposed to complain about how it ain't like the good ol' days on HN, but come the fuck on. Come. The. Actual. Fuck. On. This thread is indistinguishable from reddit. To wit: https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3agrrv/cdc_red_eyes_w...

While I'm on this tear, this long holiday weekend has been the absolute worst for one-liners, memes, and general low-effort pseudo-contributions. It's been amazing. My only constructive hypothesis is that the recent investment in reddit by a Chinese media firm has caused an exodus, and the refugees have ended up here. If so, can you fuckers knock it off? You're turning HN into actual garbage.

Thank you.

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