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>Which is not to say that I think they should be banned, mind you. I wish we all got to keep our subs and accounts... So you're a facist who supports free speech?
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Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform
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I highly doubt HN would see a drop in activity if a single post was edited. Especially if it’s edited to remove offensive or obviously false content.
What if it was a user insulting a member of ycombinator, and it was edited to leave everything the same except changing the target to a mod ? Principles matter, and that level of dishonesty is not acceptable.
personally I would say don’t do that again, and then get over it.
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#134We need to find ways to untrap people from their online networks. Perhaps a common friendlist protocol with global identifiers? The market should be able to offer alternatives to reddit. User uprisings are just proof that the platform is a monopolistic trap.
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If the government wants to use them to pressure Reddit, they can and will. In this instance, Tencent and the government are functionally equivalent.
Using that logic, the CIA and almost every company in existence is functionally equivalent. This is just sloppy thinking. You have to show evidence for your opinions. In this particular instance, do you have any specific evidence?
You're completely ignoring historical context and engaging in whataboutism as well.
Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform
#136Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…
> Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. All forums are "plagued" in that way, though. This one too. Everyone who wants to run such a service has a personal idea of what expression is appropriate within the vision of the site and which ones aren't welcome. And everyone has personal sensitivities and makes moderation mistakes, too. Honestly if reddit has failed, it's been in the opposite direction. They've been…
Disagree. Google isn't responsible for the content of emails, WhatsApp is not responsible for the groups using it to organize, and the monuments in D.C. aren't responsible when some folks decide to yell bigoted language.
There needs to be room for public spaces to just be venues. Service providers should be able to just be service providers.
There should be limits, but they should mostly align with legal limits and they should be enforce by law enforcement officers accountable to the public primarily by observing public posts or through warrants and subpoenas.
There should additionally be norms about, broadly, what counts as disruptive behavior, but it needs to be agnostic about content.
I don't really care if it is hard to make 100 billion dollars because there are too many trolls or because the content doesn't align with "corporate values".
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I would care. Deleting a post is one thing and that's fine because it's clear what was done and why, but editing a post surreptitiously is a deliberate attempt to deceive and that's not acceptable.
It was not an attempt to deceive, it was a way of visibly trolling back people who were dumb enough to libel the Reddit CEO on his own website, in extremely offensive ways. And he owned up to it very quickly after it happened.
and how did they libel him?
Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform
#138Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…
Well, can you blame them for developing a habit of censorship when the laissez-faire approach gave them a huge problem with kiddie-porn trading, extreme racism, destructive conspiracy theories, anti-Semitism, misogyny, pro-rape communities, etc? They tried the hands-off approach and it failed spectacularly. The site spent its boom years with basically negligible community-management while it spent its efforts doing d…
Why come down on Reddit and not the law enforcement agencies responsible for policing kiddie porn, etc.?
Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform
#139Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…
My 8 year-old account was shadow-banned site-wide for criticizing AMC's video player on a sponsored link (they've since disabled comments on advertising posts).
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If this hypothesis where true couldn't you just build a niche Reddit clone that is run as a non-profit. People certainly would switch if it is so much better.
Reddit’s value is in the user base, not the software or style of the site.
Sure, but the argument was about what would be different if it was run or even started as a non-profit? Tencent, for example, could still become a "sponsor" and board member and try to influence everything.