Intel to Discontinue Itanium 9700 ‘Kittson’ Processor, the Last of the Itaniums

Post by ghaff » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 11:33 PM UTC

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I'm not sure what point Dvorak is even making in that article. Yeah, a lot of ultimately wasted effort went into Itanium. But we ended up with x86-64 plus a somewhat diminished set of CPUs from some of the big Unix vendors. It's an interesting question but I'm ultimately not sure that the computer industry would look all that different today had Intel just done 64-bit extensions to x86 or something similarly evolutio…

X86-64/AMD64 was solely developed by AMD and licensed to Intel. I'm stating this because I can't tell what you mean by: "wasted effort went into Itanium. But we ended up with x86-64"

Post by kabdib » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 11:40 PM UTC

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Mixed feelings. On the one hand, Itanium (as a platform) was batshit insane, impossible to write good compilers for and the pinnacle of Intel overengineering. Good riddance. On the other hand, Itanium was ugly, but had its charm and uniqueness. Itanium is what EFI was first developed for. Itanium is where the C++ ABI got started. Itanium being discontinued further reduces mainstream CPUs to the most boring, safe desi…

> the pinnacle of Intel overengineering. I think the i432 would be a worthy challenger to that title https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_iAPX_432

Post by protomyth » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 11:53 PM UTC

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We are buying a new iSeries and the IBM person was very specific that the terminal we have in the server room is NOT supported anymore without some weird interface board. I was kind of sad at the thought. Even sadder knowing I'm going have to load IBM's client access software on some poor PC.

SNA? It's super fantastic fun. Honest. I worked for an egovernment company several years ago. A state (county?) agency built a service with us, and wouldn't expose the actual database to us, just an SNA supporting interface. We were essentially scraping the data. Messy, unsanitised data. I really didn't envy the developer who looked after that particular application.

Post by max76 » Sun, Feb 03, 2019, 12:21 AM UTC

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Let’s be honest: the only reason Fuschia exists, is so Google can ship a Android-platform 100% free of GPL-code in the future. There’s nothing in it for anyone else.

I think Fuchsia exists mostly to keep talented OS research people busy and make them stay at the company.

Post by microcolonel » Sun, Feb 03, 2019, 12:40 AM UTC

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q3k wrote: post #10

Mixed feelings. On the one hand, Itanium (as a platform) was batshit insane, impossible to write good compilers for and the pinnacle of Intel overengineering. Good riddance. On the other hand, Itanium was ugly, but had its charm and uniqueness. Itanium is what EFI was first developed for. Itanium is where the C++ ABI got started. Itanium being discontinued further reduces mainstream CPUs to the most boring, safe desi…

And EFI is a good thing, especially considering the monster dumpster fire that is UEFI?