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Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by taftster »

shimms wrote: post #115
wp381640 wrote: post #78

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I paid $400+ a year for personal accounts since GSuite went premium. I just switched over to another provider because I reached a tipping point of not being able to tolerate GSuite support - it is horrible. horrible. horrible. horrible. Took 1+ and 3+ weeks to resolve the only two minor issues we've ever had. Support replies were a series of unrelated prefilled replies, it seems whoever is on the other end is just ke…

Have you checked out Fastmail? Whilst I use and pay for Office 365 for business, my personal email is on Fastmail (migrated from Gmail after a decade with them) and very happy with it.

$5/user/month with a custom domain. It's the same pricing as GSuite. Just doesn't reflect the right price point for me.

By the way, how is Fastmail's spam filtering? Gmail/GSuite is probably the best, and one of my concerns would be going back to the days of seeing enlargement products in my inbox.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by jammygit »

illumin8 wrote: post #88
brianpgordon wrote: post #81

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You can disable autoupdate and manually check for updates occasionally. Also, any time an application is available from both inside and outside the App Store I always prefer the outside one. The sandboxing that the App Store imposes is a massive pain. There's also no reason in my mind that Apple deserves a fat slice of my license payment.

I automatically prefer the App Store one because: - I know it will be updated automatically - Sandboxing prevents many dark patterns that apps use to sell advertisers data

Will it not still have keylogging telemetry though, at least while using the app?

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by jammygit »

taftster wrote: post #131
shimms wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you checked out Fastmail? Whilst I use and pay for Office 365 for business, my personal email is on Fastmail (migrated from Gmail after a decade with them) and very happy with it.

$5/user/month with a custom domain. It's the same pricing as GSuite. Just doesn't reflect the right price point for me. By the way, how is Fastmail's spam filtering? Gmail/GSuite is probably the best, and one of my concerns would be going back to the days of seeing enlargement products in my inbox.

They thrown in 'not data mining you' for free though

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by josefresco »

jammygit wrote: post #133
taftster wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$5/user/month with a custom domain. It's the same pricing as GSuite. Just doesn't reflect the right price point for me. By the way, how is Fastmail's spam filtering? Gmail/GSuite is probably the best, and one of my concerns would be going back to the days of seeing enlargement products in my inbox.

They thrown in 'not data mining you' for free though

No data mining with G Suite.

https://storage.googleapis.com/gfw-touched-accounts-pdfs/goo...

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by jammygit »

josefresco wrote: post #134
jammygit wrote: post #133

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They thrown in 'not data mining you' for free though

No data mining with G Suite. https://storage.googleapis.com/gfw-touched-accounts-pdfs/goo...

The specific claim, unless I missed it, is no data collection for advertising purposes (page 12 and also in their other privacy policy online). That doesn't stop them from other uses of the data. Microsoft makes a similar claim with some of its telemetry. Or did I miss something? It was a long PDF, I just skimmed it

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by intopieces »

Very pleased to be able to download just Microsoft Word from the store. It does seem snappier than the previous version. Sidenote, I use MS Word for one thing only, and that's Chinese homework. Are there any other word processors that do Pinyin well? I'll pay.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by shimms »

taftster wrote: post #131
shimms wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you checked out Fastmail? Whilst I use and pay for Office 365 for business, my personal email is on Fastmail (migrated from Gmail after a decade with them) and very happy with it.

$5/user/month with a custom domain. It's the same pricing as GSuite. Just doesn't reflect the right price point for me. By the way, how is Fastmail's spam filtering? Gmail/GSuite is probably the best, and one of my concerns would be going back to the days of seeing enlargement products in my inbox.

Yeah we pay $50 per year per user (two of us) on our custom family domain.

Spam filtering is good, don't get any spam in Inbox, occasionally get legit incorrectly classified as spam. Training the model seems to prevent future occurrences pretty quickly.

I like the aliases that let you setup groups (which GSuite obviously also has) - all our bills and stuff get emailed to a group that includes the two of us.

We weren't on GSuite before this but individual Gmail, so we didn't have those group features.

In terms of $5/month you get more through GSuite (docs, drive etc), but I would prefer to be free of Google and Fastmail (for us) filled the need perfectly, and is something I'm more than happy to pay for given their attention to privacy, security and being the customer rather than the product.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by [deleted] »

brianpgordon wrote: post #91
illumin8 wrote: post #88

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I automatically prefer the App Store one because: - I know it will be updated automatically - Sandboxing prevents many dark patterns that apps use to sell advertisers data

Funny you should mention updates. The problem is when the developer wants to keep adding features and release a paid upgrade to make that possible. If you bought through the app store, you're going to have to buy the new version all over again, because there's no way for the developer to offer an upgrade discount. As for sandboxing, yes it does prevent unscrupulous apps from doing shady things, but it also prevents a…

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