Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin • Hacker News Board

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by bubblethink » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:21 PM UTC

QML wrote: post #94

metalliqaz wrote: post #4

Another reason to be glad that Firefox is still standing.

Someone correct me, but can’t ad blockers just be installed through the OS and not be dependent on the browser? I recall this is what I had to do for Safari since there wasn’t a supported extension for the new browser yet. This would lessen our dependency on a browser for ad blocking in this ongoing browser war.

That can only do blocking at a coarse dns level. The browser extensions do a lot more. If you want to do everything at the OS layer without browser extensions, you'll have to MITM your ssl connections by trusting your CA and set up a parallel engine that does what extensions do right now.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by antoineMoPa » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:21 PM UTC

swampthinker wrote: post #105

sixothree wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities. Sorry Google, I feel "icky & gross" when I use you.

Most of my logins have been syncd via Chrome. Makes logging into a new computer a breeze, or if I need to borrow someone else's stuff really quick.

Firefox also has password/history/bookmarks sync between devices.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by companyhen » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:21 PM UTC

hemantv wrote: post #75

Brave is a great alternative. I just wish they could somehow integrate the whole chrome extension ecosystem in there.

The new update added support for Chrome extensions. Are the ones it doesn't support?

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by beezischillin » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:21 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #71

metalliqaz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the news that Edge would switch to chromium, Firefox is really the only thing preventing a complete web browser monoculture. Support Firefox if you can!

> Firefox is really the only thing preventing a complete web browser monoculture WebKit?

I use Safari as my preferred browser and I'm really happy with it, it's become a lot faster with each update, noticeably so. But I don't trust Apple any more than I trust Google to fight for a free Internet. We need an open browser.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by _red » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:22 PM UTC

yingw787 wrote: post #53

I'd like to use Chrome or be on the ecosystem for the developer tools and website compatibility but not have to...well...suffer through this. Maybe Brave or another maintained fork of Chromium fits the bill.

I've been using Brave for a few months now and they have come a long way -- with many bumps along the road. When sync is finally released (its in beta now), I really think it will be a contender.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by leeoniya » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:22 PM UTC

i will go wherever uBlock Origin and uMatrix go

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by techntoke » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:22 PM UTC

decebalus1 wrote: post #51

I'm very happy about this change. Hopefully Firefox would gain a plethora of new users.

Mozilla is really no better than Google... in fact Chromium on my Linux distro vastly outperforms Firefox.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by GraemeL » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:22 PM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #93

GraemeL wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is with the limit on the number of filters. On desktop Firefox I have ~120,000 network filters active on uBlock. Safari on iOS limits the number of filters an adblocker can have active to 50,000 and Google are proposing limiting it to 30,000 on Chrome.

On iOS and macOS, blockers can have more filters than this "limit" by simply exposing more than one list, since the quota is per-list. I think AdGuard exposes four, for example.

Is there something special that needs to be done to configure it? Every time I go over 50,000 I get a red warning at the bottom of the AdGuard filters setting screen telling me that I'm over the limit.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by SilasX » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:22 PM UTC

lettergram wrote: post #8

Well, highly recommend Firefox. Works great after the updates last year and even use it on mobile. It bothers me that iOS doesn’t support addons to Firefox mobile. But on Android you can even install ublock origin

Which is why I'm all the more disappointed that Mozilla is unable to resist the siren's call either, what with the Looking Glass decision and their tendency to deprecate UX functionality with no replacement (like custom keyboard shortcuts).

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by tivert » Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:22 PM UTC

metalliqaz wrote: post #80

greymeister wrote: post #23

... and yet another downside to Microsoft moving to Chromium.

Why would Microsoft be driving this change? Google is the company with the huge advertising business.

Because by moving to Chromium, Microsoft increased Google's control of the browser ecosystem by killing one of the last remaining competitors to it. Now only Firefox is left.

Before they dropped Edge, a move like this would have been a great marketing opportunity for Microsoft: "Come to Edge, where your ad blocker still works."