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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by hirundo »

mxwsn wrote: post #39

For me, Notion replaced Evernote and I haven't looked back. Three features that have been particularly useful for personal productivity are 1) explicit support for Kanban board-ing tasks and similar to-do management 2) collapsible blocks 3) substantially smoother linking to, or embedding, notes within notes Notion is just as sleek as Evernote for small independent notes, but these two features allow Notion to scale m…

Evernote's killer feature for me is the automatic OCR on images, included in the search. Any way to rig that in Notion?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by notahacker »

chpmrc wrote: post #89
ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

Couldn't help it. > For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

tbf I think the "I don't want to entrust all my notes to a startup that might not be here next year" issue is more relevant to the average person than "but surely you could roll your own if you were a desktop Linux user". On the other hand, I agree normal users don't want software to stick in docker containers, they want a nice friendly GUI that also happens to backup copies of their data somewhere they might be able to access them with another programme if the company ends their incredible journey.

One of the best things about Dropbox as an early adopter was knowning that if they died or got acquihired, you still had one or more local copies of everything you'd ever uploaded to them.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by innerspirit »

ralusek wrote: post #123
geekamongus wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to things I discovered on their privacy pages here: https://www.notion.so/willchatham/Terms-and-Privacy-28ffdd08... They encrypt your data at rest, have their stuff audited by a third party quarterly, and give the employees some amount of security training. The thing I am curious about is that to log in, you don't have a password. Rather, then send a temporary login code to your email address. Not sure how…

It's safer than email + password. Every email + password combination I'm familiar with allows you to reset password by having a link sent to your email, which means that access to email is always considered the ultimate association of identity. This just removes the email + password altogether and requires that you have explicit access to the email. So it takes the end-all-be-all access criteria of the other solution…

It's less safe than email + password. Someone can break into your email with email + password, or you can forget it logged in and they have your Notion automatically, so it has the same problems email + password have, plus some more.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by krzysztof »

ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

For Diary/Journal use only: If you are mac/ios user i've created app which uses iCloud as backend, but you can export all entries to markdown.

https://pureformstudio.com/diarly

Think the reason for non-self-hosting is price really. One time purchase is.. well it's one time.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by WalterSear »

giodamelio wrote: post #121
WalterSear wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm developing an ipfs-based personal knowledge manager that works on similar principles.

I have been contemplating making a similar thing for years now. Nothing I have used really has gotten me all the way. Is it going to be open source?

I haven't figured out. My current plan is to open source the layer that allows users to access their own raw data, to ensure portability.

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to maintain the project if it doesn't bring in revenue.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by atombender »

Notion looks great, and I've been hoping to migrate it. There are two big problems.

One is the migration path from Evernote. If you look at all the current notetaking apps, none of them seem to have capitalized on the fact that there are lots of unhappy Evernote users out there who would kill for a smooth, painless migration path. Instead, these apps ask you to export your Evernote notes as HTML, something which Evernote only lets you do for a single notebook at a time. I have lots of individual notebooks, so this would take forever. Plus, you lose folders and images this way. Why not just write a small app that scrapes the whole Evernote database? Last I checked, it's an SQLite database!

The other is the lack of offline search. This isn't a dealbreaker, but it seems pretty suspect for an app like this. Losing cell service completely is one thing, but shouldn't it be "offline indexing first" anyway? Obviously it has all my notes synced at all times. I want the search to be lightning fast even if I'm on a slow connection.

It seems like "attachments" (files like PDFs, and also images) are not stored offline, either. In the iOS app, clicking on a file or image brings up an S3 URL inside an embedded web browser.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by throwaway382 »

nirv wrote: post #56

I'm concerned about the privacy of this service. Do company employees have (or are able to get) access to users' private data? Is there any data mining in use?

They use FullStory, which probably means all employees can see your data if they wanted to. There's no option to remove it, as far as I can tell.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by asadkn »

Notion is just awesome and I have been using it for 6 months now. It's the only app I have used so far that feels like a text editor and despite covering so many use-cases, excels at each of them and outdoes individual apps made for that specific purpose.

Tools I have replaced with Notion:

- Todos & Planning: Evernote, Workflowy, Text Files.

- Notes: Google Keep, Text Files.

- Work Wiki: MediaWiki.

- Collaboration/Project Management: Confluence, Trello, Asana.

I also use it for pros and cons lists, inspirations and moodboards for design and so on.

One thing that would be quite helpful in Notion is to have some sort of "marketplace" where users can share pre-made templates. I am not sure if they have an API for extensions yet, but that would be awesome.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by NikolaNovak »

Hmm, I cannot seem to create an account without sharing my Google contacts; which I see no need to do and it's needless friction. I get into a loop of clicking checkbox "I don't want to share my Google contacts", then being rerouted back to login page and requested approval to share my contacts.

Pricing wise, I wish these types of apps didn't have such a steep escalation as soon as I want to share. $4 for individual, but $8/team member, which means wanting to share this with my wife is four times as expensive as just using it myself, with limited to no appreciable improvement.

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