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Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Not what I was saying. Eating meat is natural, it's been for cosmic ages, and to an extent I have no issue with that. The mass globalized consumption does bother me. I reduce my consumption. I might try vegan but I'll surely miss all the meat based products. Maybe I'll find a middle point by breeding, killing producing it myself so at least I did it on my own, think what you want, there's a form of respect in that. I…

> Eating meat is natural, it's been for cosmic ages, and to an extent I have no issue with that. That's true, but I think a similar argument can be made that any situation where the more powerful control the less powerful is natural, e.g. slavery, patriarchy, etc. That said, I think the first step for everyone is to realize the cognitive dissonance that modern society tries to keep in place when it comes to eating me…

>meat is just a nice, tasty hunk of protein that comes wrapped in plastic and styrofoam from the grocery storeand is in no way related to that adorable cow video I saw on Instagram

Honest question. Are people this ignorant? I grew up around ranches so the source of meat is blindingly obvious to me. Are people really seeing beef in the grocery store as magic that comes from nowhere?

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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To forgive the tautology, intelligent creatures are intelligent. Which also means that love is possible. I mean... every person who's ever had a pet (of any sort) understands this (as I stare at the photo of my recently-deceased and very-charismatic cat). It may not fit into any naturalistic model that clearly separates humans from these other intelligent creatures (and ascribes all perception of humanlike feeling to…

Ya I'm troubled by this too. I'm really into bodybuilding but the human body simply can't recover unless it eats beef/salmon/eggs/chicken/etc at least one or more times per week, especially after the minor injuries that inevitably come with lifting weights. As a general rule, I never eat mammals that are omnivores or carnivores, so pigs and anything higher in the food chain are out. Veganism is a little unrealistic I…

>for example the desertification in the west is due to cow and sheep ranching

No, the west was a desert long before ranching. I'm not sure what you meant here but I think you'll need to be a bit more specific or provide a reference to what you're talking about.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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> It's technically illegal to have a wild animal as a pet in Brazil, as officials want to ensure vulnerable creatures don't get separated from their families and that they can be reintroduced into the wild after injury. Same where I am. I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? For example, I give peanuts to the wild squirrels around my house. This is not illegal where I live. It is illegal, however, to keep a w…

Just regulate against purposefully feeding wild animals. Problem solved.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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When I was a child, a school teacher showed me this hoax video of flying penguins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4 . Unfortunately, for a brief period of my childhood, I was under the assumption that penguins could indeed fly. By the time I had uncovered my teacher's subterfuge, I had already made a fool of myself by publicly positing that such penguins existed. Admittedly, my teacher was only playing a p…

Your teacher should not have told you something she knew was patently false. Teachers should not play pranks on students.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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I know you already know, but just posting in case it helps someone else. Be really careful about letting a squirrel get into a closed area with you, or even too close to your body. If they feel threatened (which they will once they realize they are trapped) they will f--k you up. This happened to an acquaintance of mine and he has permanent eye damage from it. They may not seem like it when they are gracefully and ha…

Or they might just scratch you and run off, then you get to have rabies treatments. Either way, no fun.

Squirrels (and others rodents) virtually never get or transmit rabies, so that’s not really a concern.

Source: am DVM.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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When I was a kid my family raised three young kestrels (small birds of prey that look like a hawk) who had lost their mother. They had an outdoor enclosure and we did not handle them much, but they understandably got attached. Once we released them, they stayed in the area and would often swoop out of the sky and land on my head. It gave visiting neighbors and friends quite a surprise! We gradually saw less of the bi…

what'd it feel like to have the bird land on your head?

were you wearing a hat?

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Obviously yes for most people, since vegans are a tiny minority. Bit of a high horse you're on there.

I think most people who are in this predicament consciously choose not to think about it in order to avoid the cognitive dissonance. Destroying your philosophical model of reality and remaking it is not exactly a pleasant process. Something you find out when you go vegetarian or vegan is that if that gets brought up, which usually happens in the context of rejecting an offer of food or being questioned about why your…

> encountering more militant vegetarians in the past, but I think it is more likely to be a result of being reminded of their cognitive dissonance.

Don't project onto people you clearly don't understand. Creating mental models of people you disagree with that involves making them stupid or living in dissonance does a disservice to yourself (by making you ignorant), to them (by you spreading your ignorance), and to wider political debates in general (it's very difficult to come to an understanding when people are incapable of understanding the other side).

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Because they're delicious :(

So a brief moment of taste pleasure is worth the suffering and killing of another creature that feels physical and emotional pain?

What if someone else is doing the killing and I'm doing the eating? Not being facetious, I struggle with this and I don't fully buy into the "guilt by association" angle. If I stopped eating meat today, animals would still be killed at exactly the same scale as before. So what would have I accomplished besides depriving myself of nutrients? If we could all do it together I'd be on board. Maybe we can start with "meat credits" or some other kind of demand reduction? That really helped curb climate change....

I think portion control would be a more effective approach. A little meat goes a long way. I think you'll get further convincing the public with a moderation message than a black and while moral argument.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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I like this analogy. To take it further I'm equally as fine with me eating an 8-bit animal as I am with a 64-bit being coming into my house and eating 32-bit me :)

Easy to say when you don't know any 64-bit beings. Which is to say that it is easy to see the food chain as moral justification when you're at the top of it.

No im pretty sure in any case i dont want to be eaten :)
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