If the pre-installed Facebook app is just a stub, why is it needed in the first place? To keep the data around for a reinstall?
Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook
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#132While I like using FB, this is type of behavior by Android OEMs that largely drove me to the iPhone. The main reason I rooted my phone prior was to get rid of crappy apps I don't use from being on my screen.
Around 4-5 years ago, Android phone manufacturers started locking down their phones more while not letting them be rooted. They didn't solve the problem of having undeleteable apps waste my time & space with clear advertising plays.
After my experience with the Galaxy S5, I quickly jumped to the iPhone 6 when it came out, and haven't looked back. I've used Android for a period of time in parallel with a second phone, but it only confirmed my reasoning for bailing for the iPhone - the Android experience is just way behind.
Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook
#133It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0
I had a friend with an undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark in the Samsung web browser. So much for Samsung making 'Premium' smartphones.
That was Vodaphone selling modified Samsung phones:
Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook
#134Am I the only one experiencing "Facebook is so bad" fatigue? I am not implying that there should be no criticism, I believe quite the opposite, but I think we have heard all of this before, many times over.
I say keep it coming until the message gets across to everyone.
I'm fatigued by Facebook's existence.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the reason I've stopped surfing the web and stay on news aggregate sites. It's madness how many dependencies sites have. Having Little Snitch on and not allowing general port 80/443 will make you perfectly aware.
Why don't you use a blocker extension?
I trust ublock well enough, but it's a risk - Adblock Plus on the one hand basically started collecting advertising data and selling whitelisting to advertisers, and plugins generally have an evergreen auto-updating system. It's happened hundreds of times that a plugin was bought and malicious tracking, ad-injecting and/or cryptocurrency mining code was injected without the user being made aware or the party responsible for delivering updates (Google, Mozilla) taking action against these practices or at the very least warning their users.
TL;DR: Blocker extensions are easy but they can be compromised.
Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook
#136I feel like Facebook is getting more and more desperate.
There have been times I've loved it, but in the last year or two I've dialled back my usage to almost nothing. Now I get regular emails / (and when I log in a whole load of) red dot notifications - both things that used to be alerts about just _ME_ - that say things like "[friend name] just posted".
With an undeletable app, I wonder how far away we are from someone embedding Facebook notifications in the OS?
Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook
#137It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0
I wouldn't worry too much about Microsoft apps. Android itself and its integration with the Google ecosystem can also be considered malware or spyware ...
Ah yes, see my other comment about Foursquare ads in Samsung Gallery app (was not able to have Exodus Privacy analyze it).
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a friend with an undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark in the Samsung web browser. So much for Samsung making 'Premium' smartphones.
That was Vodaphone selling modified Samsung phones: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6451265
Yep, and Samsung allowing Vodafone to do that.
Also: I wrote that comment 6 years ago!
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#139Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.
This is the reason I've stopped surfing the web and stay on news aggregate sites. It's madness how many dependencies sites have. Having Little Snitch on and not allowing general port 80/443 will make you perfectly aware.
Please don't stop surfing the web, that is insane. You are staying locked in your news aggregator sites like someone with agoraphobia, that is even more unhealthy than whatever beasties you think are out there waiting for you.