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Highly unethical
Hilarious that the HN audience decided that the parent comment was worthy of down-votes! Ethics? Pah, we're IT professionals.
Ethics swing both ways.
CSS grid garden
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Re: CSS grid garden
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> If I was this “IT” person, I would explain to the individual that there was a critical vulnerability found which will not be patched and then print up a liability waver form for them to sign and date, stating that they are doing this on their own terms and I cannot be held responsible should anything go wrong. That's even worse advice than what I was responding to. Great way to anger a high-ranking executive and pr…
Go back up to the start where I said that the best case was that you get fired. Either you make progress or get... encouragement to go find a better job. Sounds like a win-win to me.
> Either you make progress or get... encouragement to go find a better job
This assumes one has a job where you can easily replace it with an equivalent. Even in IT, this is not the norm outside of a few limited areas and fields. Most people have to worry about keeping jobs that arent perfect.
Frankly, this is the kind of "if it were me Id just be an asshole because being right is the only thing that matters, just don't look at my actual life actions" advice I got from my grandfather growing up and just sounds very unaware and privileged today.
Does it suck? Yes. Is there some act this person can do to change things? Maybe. Are there a lot of actions that can feel morally justified but arent, and are also really bad ideas to attempt? Oh my yes.
Do I think you are offering this terrible advice? Cant say...there's a lot of context we can be assuming differently. I can say that I dont see the take away from many of the messages on this thread being terribly helpful.
Re: CSS grid garden
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hilarious that the HN audience decided that the parent comment was worthy of down-votes! Ethics? Pah, we're IT professionals.
Ethics swing both ways.
I wasn't saying it doesn't. I wasn't saying anything remotely like that. Someone was downvoted for the normally unremarkable observation that intentional sabotage is unethical. I thought that this community response was hilarious and worthy of remark.
If it "swings both ways," I would be most interested in an opinion about the "other way" if you're willing to offer it.
Re: CSS grid garden
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Ultimately these are just conventions. There are probably good reasons for them, too. For example having [a,b)* allows easier computation when you have things that abut. E.g. it's [a,b) [b,c) [c,d) rather than [a,b-1] [b,c-1] [c,d-1]. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_(mathematics)#Includi...
But it seems to be weirder than that, according to the game (can someone explain this to me?): start:1, end:4 = 1,2,3 (start-inclusive, end-exclusive) start:5, end:2 = 2,3,4 (I guess this means right-exclusive, whether it's 'start' or 'end'?) start:1, end:-2 = 1,2,3,4 (the puzzle text says -1 is the first grid-line from the right, i.e. 5, but that doesn't follow, because now it's right-inclusive) start:-3 = 4 (so -1…
Isn't there some presumed universal convention for how to index things, present in the most popular programming languages, that avoid all of these issues that would have really easy to code?
I feel like I'm spending my time doing the wrong things ... I should have been arguing for sensibility during the standards writing. These modern css things are only here to make things easier, not more wonky and strange - we already have that. If they're just dedicated to inventing new bizarreness to replace the older wackiness, where have we actually come?
Re: CSS grid garden
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Either that or “IT” is someone who doesn’t feel qualified enough to be assertive in their position. If I was this “IT” person, I would explain to the individual that there was a critical vulnerability found which will not be patched and then print up a liability waver form for them to sign and date, stating that they are doing this on their own terms and I cannot be held responsible should anything go wrong.
> If I was this “IT” person, I would explain to the individual that there was a critical vulnerability found which will not be patched and then print up a liability waver form for them to sign and date, stating that they are doing this on their own terms and I cannot be held responsible should anything go wrong. That's even worse advice than what I was responding to. Great way to anger a high-ranking executive and pr…
While I agree that some of these approaches are too agressive and this should first be approached with an honest conversation, I completely disagree that people should just stick to their role and shut up even when they see problems.
Sometimes you need to break the chain of command (either from below or from above) to get things fixed, otherwise some problematic people never called on their shit and the whole organization suffers.
Re: CSS grid garden
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ah, post-google chrome developers. Most people here will be too young to remember, so let me tell an old-people tale of when everyone used Netscape (which cost $29.99 ...let that sink in first of all), and then microsoft gave IE for free for everyone! Then webdevelopers without a true CS background (and by that i do not mean university), like yourself, started to use IE niceties to develop. One of those niceties was…
Navigator was free at first; Netscape's idea was that the money was in the web server. Free (that is, initially price-matched) MSIE just made changing strategy different when the server thing fell flat. Netscape going all in on JSSS (with a half-assed CSS translation module) didn't help at all, nor did strict hierarchical access paths (no "all" collection object, which also affected how the CSS-that-was-really-JSSS w…
was it free at first? I recall wrong probably. assumed it started as shareware and went free after IE. might be thinking of winsock.
Re: CSS grid garden
#137I played CSS Diner in 2014. https://flukeout.github.io/
Grid Garden copied the concept.
Re: CSS grid garden
#138This makes me sad. Not because I don't like grid. But because two weeks ago I found out that a very senior person in the company has a computer running IE11, and will not let IT upgrade her machine. She recently discovered that one of the company's web sites doesn't look right in IE11, and shit ran downhill into my lap. I checked the logs, and yep... she's the only IE11 machine to hit any of the web sites in a year.…
IE 10 supports an ealier version of CSS Grid Layout: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/2011/04/14/ie10-platform...
or you can use a polyfill: https://github.com/FremyCompany/css-grid-polyfill/