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Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by jjoonathan »

quxbar wrote: post #130

I've quickly become addicted to longform (10+ minute) nonfiction youtube videos, whether it be a comprehensive analysis of Neverwinter Nights or 24 minutes on the advanced features of the laserdisc. Most, if not all of the content creators have Patreon pages, and I even contribute to a few. The content is so niche it's unimaginable that Netflix or any other content behemoth would develop their own version of it.

"You just clicked on a video about making a mostly square block of metal into an even more square block of metal. Just saying." -ThisOldTony

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by alimbada »

aequitas wrote: post #34
icebraining wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube Originals has scripted dramas, though the selection is still tiny, and the UI is a mess, in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqVDpXKLmKeBU_yyt_QkItQ/pla...

YouTube recently suggested Impulse to me (sci-fi/drama) out of the blue. Just the first 3 episodes for the rest you needed premium. It definitely looked like a show you would find on Netflix or TV in terms of production.

I watched the first couple of episodes of that and while I do enjoy it I wouldn't pay a monthly for a YouTube Premium subscription just to watch one show. The other show that it keeps suggesting to me is Origin which looks interesting too, but it's still not enough.

Edit: Origin, not Origins.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by bluGill »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #127
mijamo wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand this. Netflix cares about how much you watch it ONLY if it means you will stop your subscription. In fact, as long as you keep your subscription their interest is that you watch as few as possible to minimize costs, right? So a few addictive shows that make you need to keep Netflix are betters than keeping you on Netflix all day every day. If Netflix cannot be replaced by Youtube, it is not…

yes but if you have a subscription and you watch nothing algorithms probably tell them that sooner or later you will stop to have a subscription. There is probably a sweet spot where you are most likely to keep your subscription even without watching much. This would really be what must watch original content would be about. If you have netflix only for showing your kid BabyBoss, then that is when it might be good fo…

Not exactly. Makers of woodworking tools consider football a bigger competitor than other woodworking tool manufactures. If you buy a nice tool from a different brand - well there is a chance you will buy from them latter. If you get addicted to football and quit doing woodworking you won't buy from them at all.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by TulliusCicero »

sametmax wrote: post #79
alecco wrote: post #57

And they both suck. Netflix content is weak. The catalog outside US is terrible. YouTube ads are annoying yet original content is not worth the price for Premium. At a price point of $12 it's ridiculous. Music catalog is sub-par and not worth the switch from Spotify. Both seem to be more dedicated to push PC propaganda than matching what viewers want. Original content is quite bad save for some exceptions (Wild Wild…

I'm just amazed somebody can come to this conclusion. 20 years ago you had to go to the shop, buy ONE film for $15 from a limited shelve, bring it back home, put it in a device you bought specifically for that film format and that does only that, navigate through a dubious UI, be forced to watch ads, then eventually get to the film. If you didn't like it... too bad. Now for the same price, you have access to thousand…

> I mean I do think the general level of quality of movies and TV shows is going down

I'd say it's the opposite, at least for TV. We're in the golden age, as they say. There are so many damn good shows out there.

And if you compare modern remakes to the old school versions, usually the difference in quality is drastic. Been watching She-Ra, and the old one is basically garbage compared to the remake. Same thing for Ducktales: the new one doesn't just have better animation, it's way smarter too (and I loved Ducktales as a kid).

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

aequitas wrote: post #30
fouc wrote: post #12

Does anyone ever feel irritated by "amateur" produced videos that approach the quality of professional studios? Sometimes it's distracting when there's too much work done on the video, and you can tell there's additional people helping out behind the camera and you never get to see them as part of the video. Basically amateur/gonzo level videos feel more truthful than the highly edited videos.

Do you have any examples of this? I have never noticed this so far, the "crew" is always in the video or am just not watching those videos?

>Do you have any examples of this?

Not exactly Youtube but pretty much all professionally produced porn made since ~2005 is like this. They call it "professional amateur" or some buzzword like that. You've got a camera crew complete with lighting, sound and makeup filming the actors screw at some producer's vacation house and it's all done professionally but they try and make the final product look like it's just the actors and cameraman.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by dbspin »

quxbar wrote: post #130

I've quickly become addicted to longform (10+ minute) nonfiction youtube videos, whether it be a comprehensive analysis of Neverwinter Nights or 24 minutes on the advanced features of the laserdisc. Most, if not all of the content creators have Patreon pages, and I even contribute to a few. The content is so niche it's unimaginable that Netflix or any other content behemoth would develop their own version of it.

Techmoan is an amazingly soothing 'slow tv' channel in this regard.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by s0l1dsnak3123 »

quxbar wrote: post #130

I've quickly become addicted to longform (10+ minute) nonfiction youtube videos, whether it be a comprehensive analysis of Neverwinter Nights or 24 minutes on the advanced features of the laserdisc. Most, if not all of the content creators have Patreon pages, and I even contribute to a few. The content is so niche it's unimaginable that Netflix or any other content behemoth would develop their own version of it.

I'm exactly the same. Some favourites I've collected over the years:

3Blue1Brown - math essays

AlfieAesthetics - Bushcraft, botany and survival skills with some fun english humour mixed in

CNLohr - fun hardware hacking livestreams

Eliminator Performance - mechanical troubleshooting and maintenance vlogs

Engineering Explained - Automotive engineering explainers and mini-lectures

FearlessFront - Mechanical engineering, welding, and vehicle hacking

How to make everything - multi-skill projects on making things from scratch as much as possible

Kurzgesagt - Philosophy and science essays

Lie Likes Music - Music essays

Mathologer - Advanced (to me) Maths essays

Matthew Cremona - Woodworking

Matthias Wandel - Woodworking

Nativlang - Essays on the history of spoken and written language

Nerdwriter1 - Essays on Art, philosophy, and the sciences

Nightmare Masterclass - Essays on fringe culture

Numberphile - Mini-lectures on Maths

Polyphonic - Essays on Music

Primitive Technology - Vlogs on primative/ancient building techniques

Rick Beato (specifically his "What makes this song great" series) - Essays on what separates iconic music from the rest

Strange Parts - Hardware hacking projects, mainly based in Shenzhen, China

The Drug Classroom - Scientific essays on recreational drugs

This Exists - Essays on cultural oddities and internet culture specficially

Uri Tuchman - Very intricate woodworking and engraving Wendover Productions - Video Essays on a variety of subjects including economics, travel, geography

Wisecrack - Essays which examine pop culture through a philosophical lens.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by koonsolo »

gwbas1c wrote: post #126

I'll be honest: I probably watch more Youtube than Netflix. But, and this is a big but: I'll continue paying for Netflix long after I stop paying for Youtube. Why? Netflix is quality content that I watch when I plan on sitting in front of the TV. In contrast, I only watch Youtube for a few minutes here and there. A different analogy is live TV versus a DVD. Youtube is more like live TV: lower-quality, news, commentar…

Good analogy! It even matches with displaying commercials.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by dagw »

romanovcode wrote: post #86
sametmax wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just amazed somebody can come to this conclusion. 20 years ago you had to go to the shop, buy ONE film for $15 from a limited shelve, bring it back home, put it in a device you bought specifically for that film format and that does only that, navigate through a dubious UI, be forced to watch ads, then eventually get to the film. If you didn't like it... too bad. Now for the same price, you have access to thousand…

Did you try to use Netflix outside of U.S.? It's pathetic.

I'm in Sweden and Netflix has gotten much much better of the past few years. Sure there are a few movies that are on Netflix in the US but Viaplay (the other big streaming service in Sweden) here. But at the same time there are movies and shows that are on Netflix here, but Prime or Hulu in the US. These days I doubt there are that many shows/movies which are available for streaming in the US, but not here.
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