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My App Is Dead in the Water

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Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#131
>Showing articles from random third party sources is pretty much THE feature of a Hacker News client app.

No, that should be showing the HN discussion.

For the articles itself, you could always forward an open the original page in an embedded webkit view.

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#132
>* Questions like, “How is my app different than all the other Hacker News apps out there?” were ignored. (...) It makes you wonder: if this rule is supposed to be enforced by app review, how does ANY Hacker News client make it through app review?*

That's not a very good question to argue with Apple about. It's like saying the traffic cop "but there are all those other cares going beyond 70 mph, why stop me?".

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#133
post #41

This might be a good time to reconsider what made iOS the best platform for this application in the first place. For example, can the app be re-packaged as an HTML5 app instead? What's the compelling advantage for building on iOS for this application?

Discovery via the app store.

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#134
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a play on a fairly common meme from Reddit. Early example here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3cdmps/rule_1_be...

It’s an SNL sketch from years before reddit existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8 - Thanks!

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#135
post #103

I think it's important to look at the broader issue: "App stores" are walled gardens, policed by corporations and are the opposite of freedom. The web is open and free. We made a deal with the devil when we collectively decided to write and use apps and not the web. This is just one symptom.

Alas, a walled garden is not the opposite of freedom. Indeed, in many places, living in a walled garden will make you factually freeer than your fellows outside.

I think you're extending an analogy to a philosophical place it doesn't go: from a "walled garden" to "the rule of law in a free society." There are a variety of features of the latter that are not inherent in the former.

For example, justice in a free society should not be arbitrary and capricious. It should be fair and equal, and applied with discretion. A society where minor rules are difficult to understand but are enforced to the maximum extent is a tyranny.

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#136

>* Questions like, “How is my app different than all the other Hacker News apps out there?” were ignored. (...) It makes you wonder: if this rule is supposed to be enforced by app review, how does ANY Hacker News client make it through app review?* That's not a very good question to argue with Apple about. It's like saying the traffic cop "but there are all those other cares going beyond 70 mph, why stop me?".

Except speeding as a law makes a lot more sense, and, in the case of the cop, you're actually able to appeal to a real person.

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#137

Can't wait for PWAs to truly take off, so we can all build for an open platform again, without having to deal withh this nonsense.

Isn't Apple the main holdup for this though? They only recently allowed some things, but look at the list of things you can do on android vs ios when it comes to PWA's [1]. Things like not even notifying the user that they can install it as a PWA, and no push notification functionality are 2 pretty big barriers to having it actually work well. From what I've read, v12 didn't add any new capabilities over 11.3, which only fairly recently introduced very limited PWA functionality.

I don't really see Apple doing much more on this front than they have. It makes no financial sense for them as some smallish percentage of appstore apps could be replaced with PWA's. What's their incentive? They will lose some revenue.

[1] https://medium.com/@firt/progressive-web-apps-on-ios-are-her...

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#138
post #95

I've checked couple of popular apps on the App Store and here are my findings: - Twitter: uses SFSafariViewController - Reddit: uses custom in-app web view, shows page title and url on top, provides "open in Safari" option through share button - Instagram: uses custom in-app web view, shows page title and url on top, provides the built in share-sheet, interestingly disabling open in Safari, but enabling "Add to Readi…

One key difference (from a legal perspective, rather than a developer perspective) is that all of the above apps first display user commentary and the user is then given the option to open the link to read the entire article. This is an important distinction under the fair use doctrine: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fair-use-the-four-fa...

Publishing a hyperlink has nothing to do with Fair Use. OP is not re-hosting the content themselves, therefore in no way does Fair Use Doctrine apply.

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#139
I think what bugs me most about app review is that these things never come up for 1.0 or even 1.15. It’s some minor update where THEN Apple complains about minutiae that have existed since 1.0. Heck, they once complained about not having a Minimize button in a window (literally all previous versions lacked it).

Re: My App Is Dead in the Water

#140
post #97

I think it's important to look at the broader issue: "App stores" are walled gardens, policed by corporations and are the opposite of freedom. The web is open and free. We made a deal with the devil when we collectively decided to write and use apps and not the web. This is just one symptom.

Developers only have themselves to blame. We allowed our technology to be used to spam, cheat and steal from our non-tech family and friends. We made tools that helped the bad-guys and did very little when our non-tech family and friends threw their hands up in confusion and cried for help. We sighed. We called them idiots and rolled our eyes. We now have to live with a bunch mostly sensible though occasionally over-…

The idea that "we" have the power to prevent software from being misused is nonsense. Most software (and all open source software, by definition) can be used for things the author of the software doesn't approve of.

For services, there is more scope to prevent misuse, but it's a never-ending battle.

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