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Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

#132

i tried to change google to duckduckgo. it was not sustainable. immediately noticeable poor search results. Searching an address brings me to a subpar open map site,

I don't know why you're being downvoted, because your experience is as valid as anybody else's. I'm with you, I can't switch to DDG because my productivity tanks with the poorer results than Google. I tried Startpage as a sort of in-between solution, but that site's so dang slow.

> I don't know why you're being downvoted

HN users use the downvote to show disagreement. Ideally it would only be used to bury comments that were off topic, spam, etc, but the only system I've seen with a correct implementation of this is https://lobste.rs.

Edit: This comment is a case in point since I've been downvoted less than 30 seconds after posting it. Ha. I challenge someone to prove me wrong.

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

#133

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It sure can. I have piHole running inside a virtual machine (Ubuntu 18.04).

What does the virtual/physical network configuration look like? Are you routing all traffic into a physical server, then through a vnet/VM, and back out some other physical interface on the server?

To be clear: not all traffic has to be routed through it, just DNS.

All that I had to do was assign a static IP address to the MAC address of the VM network interface, and configure my router's DHCP to hand out that static IP for DNS.

It's all done over a singular ethernet connection between my router and the server; the amount of traffic is very minimal.

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

#134
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They've got to protect their IP somehow.

Do they? Their selling point is trustworthiness and privacy, not the software.

Their selling point is trustworthiness, privacy and usefulness. To be useful, they must have quality software/IP. And in their opinion, that should be protected.

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

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I have Pi-Hole on the network that every device in the house runs through, with extra blocklists and a year or so of manual tweaking, that covers most stuff. I also run ad block plugins just in case, don't allow commercial TV (they only watch Netflix or ABC Kids app), and that pretty much covers everything for our family. It's also just a thing we keep in mind and work around in life. We won't use any service that ha…

Can a pi-hole run without a raspberry-pi? I have a machine kept on all the time at home. Tried setting up pi-hole on docker with no veil.

Did you try rolling your own or did you use https://hub.docker.com/r/pihole/pihole/ ?

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

#136

I run https://jivesearch.com , so I might be biased. The single biggest thing they can do to improve their product is open source everything. They've instead decided to move away from that by freezing their instant answers with no explanation as to if/when they will re-open source them. Makes me question their commitment to privacy and transparency.

Hey there, To clarify, we haven't closed anything that was previously open, and all open source Instant Answers will remain open. For now, we've paused community contributions for new Instant Answers and non-essential changes, until we can find a better way to work with the community and their contributions.

A better way than open sourcing it?

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

#137

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I have Pi-Hole on the network that every device in the house runs through, with extra blocklists and a year or so of manual tweaking, that covers most stuff. I also run ad block plugins just in case, don't allow commercial TV (they only watch Netflix or ABC Kids app), and that pretty much covers everything for our family. It's also just a thing we keep in mind and work around in life. We won't use any service that ha…

don't allow commercial TV (they only watch Netflix or ABC Kids app How are Netflix and ABC Kids not "commercial"? Even PBS is "commercial", given the growing practice of underwriter ads.

I'm guessing they mean the other ABC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Broadcasting_Corpor...

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

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I actually think that breaks it, I like it better when everybody gets the same results for the same queries. People (via algorithms or directly) shaping what others get to see, rather than configuration and user empowerment, is something I reject.

I used to think that but now I see very little value in it to the current searcher. Why would you ever care what other people get?

To have that be part of the common world. Just like I wouldn't want Wikipedia to show a different version of the world to every visitor.

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

#139
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I much rather trust a product that is open source, which makes me slightly uncomfortable and concerned about DDG.

So let's say they release their source code - how can they possibly prove that their servers are running that same code?

If the code was AGPL'd and included contributions for which DDG didn't own the copyright (so DDG would be using the code under the terms of the AGPL), they'd be breaking the licence terms if they failed to disclose any changes.

It wouldn't be proof, but it would be a fairly strong commitment.

Re: Improving DuckDuckGo

#140

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I had the same issue with them back when I was a user. If you find any broken !bangs at Jive Search feel free to submit a pull request.

Is there a way to go straight to the first result using Jive Search? With DuckDuckGo searching for "example !" does this. (This is the main reason I don't use Searx.)

Just got done adding it. Let me know if there are any issues.
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