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Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by shkkmo »

_8j50 wrote: post #125

> Communities can elect and impeach their own mods by voting. Fyi, impeach means to hold a trial not to kick them out. On this point I have to disagree. Democracy does not work well in foss communities and can easily be hijacked and makes it to easy to foster strife and divisions. I like the traditional foss way of being led by a BDFL where if you disagree with leadership you can "Just fork it".

Impeach: call into question the integrity or validity

Seems perfectly appropriate usage to me.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by Lerc »

mrspeaker wrote: post #37
CarVac wrote: post #6

I can't figure out how to use the snap.

I downloaded the snap and installed it from the command line with `snap install --dangerous Aether.snap`. Dangerous sounds dangerous... I'm not sure if it was a good idea, but it works and my system found the app when I searched for it. I clicked the "cat's bum icon" and we're away!

You are installing a program you downloaded off the internet.

The --dangerous is there to make you think about that for a moment as(or if you're lucky, before) you install.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by rolleiflex »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #133

> Aether is a peer-to-peer app, and it has no servers. A result of this is that source IP of any specific public post cannot (easily) be determined. Really? Doesn't p2p model actually expose your IP address to everybody you communicate to?

It is a flood network.

> A result of this is that source IP of any specific public post cannot (easily) be determined.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by inequity »

rolleiflex wrote: post #128
nixarian wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You state that one of the purposes of this platform is to allow you the freedom to be wrong, but if people can save something before 6 months, how would you prevent someone from saving an embarrassing comment for future use against you? Or are you the only one capable of saving your own comments?

They can definitely save yours - and if you’re someone whose comments should be saved, be pseudonymous. What they can’t do is they can’t go back 14 years of history like they can on Twitter, after the fact, and find something out of context there. Pseudonymity and ephemerality are the two sides of the same coin. One doesn’t protect without the other.

Have you considered the inequities that such a retention policy introduces into HOW history can be used?

The entrepreneurial (and governments) will archive everything to serve the wealthy (including governments), who will be able to use history to their ends. Those without resources will live in an eternal present, except where history is used against them.

To sell this kind of retention policy as a user-protecting feature is (in my view) at best naive, and at worst, disingenuous. This model increases the economic cost of mining history, but in doing so, entrenches existing wealth and power structures.

Thanks to the ever-decreasing cost-per-bit of storage, the internet is forever. The only hope for redemption lies in this permanence affecting everyone equally; otherwise we're doomed to (continue to) live in a world where only the wealthy and politically connected have read and write access to history.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by krapp »

Animats wrote: post #135

Maybe they can get Gab to adopt this.[1] Gab is having trouble finding hosting. This could go mainstream fast if it picked up the Gab crowd. [1] gab.ai

>This could go mainstream fast if it picked up the Gab crowd

The "Gab crowd" doesn't have the cultural pull or influence that this would require.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by Animats »

krapp wrote: post #137
Animats wrote: post #135

Maybe they can get Gab to adopt this.[1] Gab is having trouble finding hosting. This could go mainstream fast if it picked up the Gab crowd. [1] gab.ai

>This could go mainstream fast if it picked up the Gab crowd The "Gab crowd" doesn't have the cultural pull or influence that this would require.

They're loud and have reasonable numbers. Get some gun forums on there and there will be traffic.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by smokeyj »

rolleiflex wrote: post #129
rch wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to overlap with what SSB is trying to accomplish. Do you see any opportunities for integrating with that or other protocols, maybe for tracking unique identities over time? (backed on patreon btw)

Thank you! I’m a little hair on fire at the moment but if you want to claim your unique username, please reach out to me (I’m not sure if I have a way of reaching out to you through Patreon) and I’ll issue it.

I think parent was asking for your take on the secure scuttlebot protocol (SSB) and the overlap of goals. I would also be interested, thanks!
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