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Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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No you don't -- apple sells a cable with lighting on one end and type c on the other end. I have one. Given that the new iPad has type C I assume that's the future for iPhones as well.

maybe i used the wrong word, does aftermarket not mean you have to buy it separately from the actual product?

I think it's often used to indicate third-party products.

Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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I think Apple is rethinking its product matrix. This new MBA is the entry-level system. The 12" MB is an upgrade option if you value thin/light/battery life -- the new "executive laptop". The MBP is an upgrade option if you need power or screen space.

12" MB: No touch ID, slower CPU, crappy last-gen keyboard that breaks all the time.

Typing this from my 2017 12" MacBook...have not had a single issue with the keyboard. In fact, I have grown to quite like it. Sure it's not my beloved WASD Code with the Cherry Clears, but it's one of the better portable keyboards in terms of typing experience of late, in my opinion.

Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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My phone, Sony camera, battery bank, and now laptop are all usb-c. I welcome this with open arms.

I mean I've got 2 AT keyboards and 3 PS/2 mice in my drawer. Why can't I plug these into the latest MacBook pro? It's a travesty.

I gotchu fam!

AT > PS/2 > usb A > usb C

If I were you, I'd stick all that crap inside the massive schoolbus sized AT keyboard where you can't see it. There is probably plenty of room.

Hell, go ahead an integrate a USB hub too, then you can use the keyboard itself to adapt other legacy devices to usb C.

Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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And a Dual Core CPU for $1200, app compatibility aside the CPU in the new MBA might be arguably slower than the A12 bionic. It's literally going to be the same CPU as in the current 12" Macbooks with a slightly relaxed power envelope which now begs the question why is the Macbook Air even a separate product? at this point it brings nothing to the table other than being slightly larger and slightly cheaper version of…

> It's literally going to be the same CPU as in the current 12" Macbooks with a slightly relaxed power envelope Is it? I was under the impression that these were different chips.

They are different chips in the sense of being different generations. It's interesting that the Air is a "Y" part which is the same low-power/lower performance family as the Macbook. No updates for the Macbook yet otherwise they probably would be the same.

Macbook 12" 2017 = i7-7Y75 (top spec, cheaper ones are lower clocked i3/i5 Y)

Macbook Air 2018 = i7-8510Y (617 graphics supposedly faster)

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Magsafe is done. The writing was on the wall when the rMBP switched to USBC. If you want a magnetic breakaway USBC cable, just buy one.

Are there any breakaway USB-C's that work with 45-65W? Serious question.

There are literally dozens, just google or search Amazon, here's an example: https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Charger-Charging-Breaksafe-N...

Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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Given that 15 minutes later, in the iPad part of the event, they claimed the new iPad is faster than 92% of all notebooks sold in the last year, the writing is on the wall. For me, the next Macbook to be excited about, would be one with an ARM processor. Still, really disappointing that for the new Air they do not allow you to go to 1TB SSD, but they won't allow you upgrade from a dual-core i5. Feels like a political…

>Given that 15 minutes later, in the iPad part of the event, they claimed the new iPad is faster than 92% of all notebooks sold in the last year, the writing is on the wall. For me, the next Macbook to be excited about, would be one with an ARM processor. hey not a huge technocrat when it comes to pc parts, but could u explain that part to me? what is the writing on the wall? what is arm exactly? and what makes u thi…

The "writing on the wall" refers to the story of Belshazzar's feast. Belshazzar throws a particularly blasphemous party, and a hand appears and writes "mene, mene, tekel, upharsin" on the wall, which the prophet Daniel translates as "weighed, weighed, found wanting: divided!" and means that the rule of the Babylonians comes to an end and the Medes and Persians will split the kingdom.

In other words, seeing the writing on the wall means that you have failed and will lose what you have.

ARM, in this context, means the processors that power Android phones, iPhones and tablets of all kinds. ARM is the designing company; many other companies license the design.

There is a lot of speculation that Apple will quit buying Intel CPUs and move to ARM CPUs, because Apple makes ARM CPUs.

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My phone, Sony camera, battery bank, and now laptop are all usb-c. I welcome this with open arms.

In contrast - my USB hubs, external USB drives, and CD reader are all USB A. My phone is Lightning. My spare chargers are two flavors of magsafe. The cords I've begun to accumulate to work with a USB C computer have varying capabilities, to the point where I can't safely interchange them for fear of blowing past their tolerances accidentally. I'm not so keen on this change.

If your drive enclosures are USB A you’re leaving massive throughout on the table and wasting your time for what would be a $30 part on Amazon.

The new “spare charger” is a 10kmAh battery pack which will have USB-C and some double as a way to jump start your car (assuming you still drive ICE). It’s also a worthwhile upgrade and much more useful than something that has you hunting for outlets at the airport, or god forbid, under your seat on a plane!

But a C D Reader? What is that? Is that like the radio that truckers used to use to talk to each other in the road?

Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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> 1.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz, with 4MB L3 cache... Intel UHD Graphics 617

https://twitter.com/tum_apisak/status/1034639298174148608 it's a custom chip made for Apple. Look at the other Amber Lake Y chips: https://ark.intel.com/products/codename/186968/Amber-Lake-Y they have lower base but higher Turbo and UHD 615 not UHD 617.

Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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And a Dual Core CPU for $1200, app compatibility aside the CPU in the new MBA might be arguably slower than the A12 bionic. It's literally going to be the same CPU as in the current 12" Macbooks with a slightly relaxed power envelope which now begs the question why is the Macbook Air even a separate product? at this point it brings nothing to the table other than being slightly larger and slightly cheaper version of…

It boggles my mind that Apple hasn't switched to AMD Ryzen yet. Lower cost for them, more cores/higher overall performance for their customers. What's not to like? But no, they'd rather try and sell people $20,000 Xeon Mac Pros with half the cores of an AMD Threadripper and like 4x the price.

The future is application processors. No point in switching to another general purpose CPU.

Re: Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, Touch ID

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Magsafe is done. The writing was on the wall when the rMBP switched to USBC. If you want a magnetic breakaway USBC cable, just buy one.

Are there any breakaway USB-C's that work with 45-65W? Serious question.

There are, but they aren't good. This [1] still seems to be the best offering by the most established brand. The reason people want Apple to make them isn't because they aren't available. It is because a version made by Apple would be expected to be far superior to anything else on the market. I assume Apple knows this and is not yet able to deliver on that quality so they simply aren't offering it.

[1] - https://www.amazon.com/Griffin-BreakSafe-Magnetic-Breakaway-...

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