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Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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Post by specialist » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 3:34 PM UTC

pm90 wrote: post #110

wolf550e wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They believe they are engaged in long term thinking - seize power so completely, popular support and laws cease to matter. Then do to the country what has been done to Toys R Us. And Democrats are willing to let them do it because they think it's a game.

This sounds true but is also really depressing. Do you think the popular wave of democrats seeking office this election season will make any difference? I like the energy in the democratic base, but I trust process over people. I fear after the election, people will again lose interest and we'll fall right back where we started.

Belated response (pep talk) to both you and 'wolf550e'.

Yes, the world sucks. But there's great stuff too.

Working towards a better future is my coping mechanism.

I encourage everyone to volunteer somewhere that helps restore your faith in humanity. Finding those people, those groups can be a challenge. (Most do gooders are also tedious to be around.)

I used to volunteer as a tree hugger. Now I'm very politically active. I somehow fell in with great people doing great things. Their friendships and the shared effort is what keeps me going.

Unbelievably, I'm now super optimistic. Yes, the challenges are terrifying, I'm not in denial. But I also believe the opportunities are insurmountable. [ h/t Yogi Bera :) ]

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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Post by IncRnd » Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 1:25 PM UTC

avs733 wrote: post #81

IncRnd wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those links are about air pollution not general interstate commerce or Title II.

The parent post was about air pollution rules and whether/why/why not they could be used as a corollary to understand what might happen in this case. The post you are responding to explains that the specific type of legislation that the parent is asking about was explicitly identified in federal law as allowable.

Thank you.

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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Post by avs733 » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 2:39 AM UTC

IncRnd wrote: post #132

avs733 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parent post was about air pollution rules and whether/why/why not they could be used as a corollary to understand what might happen in this case. The post you are responding to explains that the specific type of legislation that the parent is asking about was explicitly identified in federal law as allowable.

Thank you.

Welcome!

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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Post by PKop » Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 2:43 PM UTC

atomi wrote: post #88

billner wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Immigration changed California to solidly blue more than anything else.

You could also argue that it was Republican's refusal to address the needs of immigrants that lost them California. But only American citizens can vote. And I can't seem to find any data on the increase of the California population from naturalized citizens.

Not sure what you're confused about, and OP was talking about legal immigration.

Prior to 65 immigration act, California was over 90% white.

By 2010, non-hispanic white was down to %40, hispanic ~%37%.

That is a huge demographic change. Hispanics nationally vote for Democratic/liberal politicians on avg. 70%.

So.. ergo, the dramatic blue turn California has taken politically can be accounted for by drastic change in demographics.

Your first statement is just restating the same premise: a dramatic change of the makeup of the electorate (whatever their "needs" or preferred political policies) changed the outcome of elections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California

section: "Population of California according to racial/ethnic group 1960–2010"