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Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by mixmastamyk »

21 wrote: post #82
peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

If anyone remembers the long discussions at the start of 2000s in relation to music/video pirating, this is not "stealing", it's "intellectual property something something". The content companies had giant advertising campaigns trying to brand this as "theft" or "stealing". Of course, when they sued someone they used the proper term: "IP violation" I'm not arguing if it's acceptable or not, but it's not the same as t…

If only during the recent bike thefts in our apartment building, the thieves would have run away with perfect copies instead of originals. :-(

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by cma »

dogma1138 wrote: post #102
21 wrote: post #82

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If anyone remembers the long discussions at the start of 2000s in relation to music/video pirating, this is not "stealing", it's "intellectual property something something". The content companies had giant advertising campaigns trying to brand this as "theft" or "stealing". Of course, when they sued someone they used the proper term: "IP violation" I'm not arguing if it's acceptable or not, but it's not the same as t…

It’s on the same level as IP theft of any kind since you cause some loss of revenue and investment, now what portion of piracy results in a financial loss is a different story but it’s not 0. Look at it this way if I steal your trade secrets and clone your product after you spent R&D money on it I’ve essentially “stolen” both a part of your revenue and your investment. Music, film and games cost money to develop and…

> since you cause some loss of revenue and investment

Wouldn't leaving a bad review of a bad product be considered theft under this definition?

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by op00to »

Why you shouldn't: you're installing untrusted, totally unverified code at the lowest system levels which opens you up to not only malicious backdoors in the software that bypasses Apple's hardware copy protection, but vulnerabilities that might be discovered in that functionality the future. If you care at all about your personal data, you probably shouldn't take that risk.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by sbuk »

mikestew wrote: post #34
bumholio wrote: post #19

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This generalized hate towards change is typically a symptom of age, not technology. It happens to the best of us.

To rephrase, you're saying everything is hunky-dory in Mac and Windows Land, and you look forward to every new release as a breath of fresh air of new functionality. To feel otherwise is to be an old fuddy-duddy. I don't know that I could argue that your opinion is mainstream, at least not here.

“Here” really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Far too many zealots on either side of this echo chamber.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by sbuk »

komali2 wrote: post #115
pfranz wrote: post #73

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I was seriously looking at Linux laptops last year and ended up begrudgingly getting another Macbook Pro. Here's my perspective when I looked at Thinkpads; There's a series: X, T, P, and A. I really hate when companies do this (I also think Apple does this a bit too much). "Powerful mobile workstations" or "Renowned professional tools" doesn't really help me narrow things down. Trying to seek these out in person, ret…

Right, I see where you're coming from. RE: connectivity, I think I'm misunderstanding you here, but the latest x1s do charge via USB-c, and come with 2 USBc ports and 2 usbA ports... and a headphone jack ;) I just checked the laptop I'm typing this on to confirm this.

They also have a terrible spongy keyboard and a horrible trackpad and cost as much as the MacBook Pro.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by rwmj »

e12e wrote: post #105
hellisothers wrote: post #68

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What does “never be able to run a legally licensed os” mean in this context? I am an iOS engineer and avid photographer: I work on a Hackintosh, I develop my photos on my Hackintosh. I’ve had 0 problems with this setup and it cost me 1/10th as much as a similarly specced Mac. And my “similar” I’m being generous to the Mac because my machine is faster

https://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macOS1013.pdf > 2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. Preinstalled and Single-Copy Apple Software License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, unless you obtained the Apple Software from the Mac App Store, through an automatic download or under a volume license, maintenance or other written agreement from Apple, you are granted a limited, non-exclusive li…

So what? You've paid for the OS you can run it wherever you want.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by crispinb »

ironjunkie wrote: post #6

I really don't get it. The biggest appeal of Apple is their wonderful hardware. I dislike MacOS and it has been worse over the last years. It seems to me that a Hackintosh is the worst of both worlds. If you spend that much time hacking around the hardware anyways, why not use Linux ?

> The biggest appeal of Apple is their wonderful hardware.

To you. To others (like me) the biggest appeal was the only even vaguely usable & consistent OS, supported by nice hardware. Now they have replaced the nice hardware with thin-and-light toys with fake keyboards, we're in a bind.

> It seems to me that a Hackintosh is the worst of both worlds. If you spend that much time hacking around the hardware anyways, why not use Linux ?

Quite, I agree. I don't want to futz with either hardware or software, so have gone for a Windows laptop. Windows is profoundly horrible, but it does work for me without having to mess around. We really have reached the point in 2018 where there literally are no good options. Just least-worst for the task at hand.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by isostatic »

dogma1138 wrote: post #110
kimdotcom wrote: post #103

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Infringement != theft

IP infringement and theft are different things, infringement is often done in regards to IP that is in the open, if I hack and steal your trade secrets which are by definition secrets and not protected by a patent what is that then? And in any case you are arguing about semantics, "theft" is also technically not a singular legal definition but an amalgamation of different civil and criminal legal statues. In most jur…

Theft in the UK (England and Wales) is covered by the theft act 1978 (and previous)

A key term is intent to deprive, hence most people nicking a car will be done for taking without consent - no need to prove an intent to permanently deprive.

Copyright infringement is a whole separate law and is clearly not theft as there's no intent to permanently deprive.

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